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olegramps

(8,200 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:50 AM Sep 2020

What type of Christian doesn't what people to have health care?

What type of Christian wants to impose their believes on others regardless of their right to freedom of conscience as guaranteed by the constitution the are going to swear to protect?

What type of Christian would be willing to be involved for personal gain in an outright sham that is opposed by 2/3 of their fellow citizens?

What type of Christian swears allegiance to a self proclaimed sexual abuser of women and a man that bribes his victims with payments and threats to not reveal his atrocious immoral conduct?

What type of Christian aligns them self with a man who attacks one of the most important criteria of a democracy of a free press to obtain a position that is dedicated to the very same principle they are going to swear to uphold?

What type of Christian supports a man who cheated numerous people who he agreed to pay out of their money and gleefully bankrupts them.

Etc., Etc.

They are the type of person who has is willing to sacrifice their moral integrity for their own personal gain. They are someone with the same commitment to our democracy as the traitor Benedict Arnold.

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What type of Christian doesn't what people to have health care? (Original Post) olegramps Sep 2020 OP
Most of them. Codeine Sep 2020 #1
Thank you. Solly Mack Sep 2020 #7
Stop pretending religion confers decency. n/t. Merlot Sep 2020 #14
Thank you. I'll also remind people that, historically, when lifesaving antibiotics, surgeries, Nay Sep 2020 #19
The religious philosophy of *some* fundamentalist Christians is no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #2
christians who are republicans beachbumbob Sep 2020 #3
I would love to ask my boss that question, but we resolved not to talk politics when GWB was in offi Arkansas Granny Sep 2020 #4
Attends a church whose entire founding doctrines are based on slavery apologetics. ret5hd Sep 2020 #6
Why do supporters of Trump who were major benificiaries of the ACA want ACA killed? marble falls Sep 2020 #5
A fake christian. pwb Sep 2020 #8
logical fallacy Celerity Sep 2020 #25
a fake one NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 #9
History begs to differ. Merlot Sep 2020 #15
+1000 Celerity Sep 2020 #26
that is a classic 'no true Scotsman' fallacy Celerity Sep 2020 #23
The ones with insurance. snort Sep 2020 #10
"I can't understand why a dog would do that disgusting thing." Girard442 Sep 2020 #11
The church of "I got mine, and screw you". nt JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #12
Oh, they want people to have health care.....IF they look like them Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #13
I once read a very wise opinion treestar Sep 2020 #22
Very, very good Christians dalton99a Sep 2020 #16
The regular kind Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2020 #17
The selfish ones. nt Hotler Sep 2020 #18
The Christian Establishment gained power through charity. Government programs threaten that power. Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #20
I have argued this with them and they insist it should treestar Sep 2020 #21
If charity worked, there would be no one living under bridges or children going to bed hungry Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #27
it is a fake quote, but still holds massive truth: Celerity Sep 2020 #28
Doesn't matter who said it treestar Sep 2020 #29
+1000 Celerity Sep 2020 #31
The one's who love God almost as much as they love their money. ooky Sep 2020 #24
The Ones Who Believe In Supply-Side Jesus, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2020 #30
Fake Christians, which mounts to the majority of them. nt Progressive Jones Sep 2020 #32
That, detective, is the right question. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #33
The ones who use religion to cover up White Supremacy JI7 Sep 2020 #34

Solly Mack

(90,792 posts)
7. Thank you.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 09:38 AM
Sep 2020

The false belief/fallacious thinking that religion confers decency or goodness or honesty (the whole hand on bible nonsense) has gotten old.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
19. Thank you. I'll also remind people that, historically, when lifesaving antibiotics, surgeries,
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 12:02 PM
Sep 2020

and vaccines were first developed, plenty of Christians said they should not be allowed because they interfered with God's will.

no_hypocrisy

(46,234 posts)
2. The religious philosophy of *some* fundamentalist Christians is
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 09:00 AM
Sep 2020

to steer individuals from government services to charity services that they run. IOW, people will be dependent upon the whims of that denomination of Christianity as how they will be granted access to food, shelter, and/or medicine. (The latter could be denied anyway, with those suffering are told to pray harder.) Maybe you're desperate, you have nowhere else to go and you and your children are starving. You'd agree to their terms of attending their church services and/or volunteering for them.

Consider this: no Social Security for your disability and your old age. No ACA to seek medical assistance. No Food Stamps to eat.

This kind of "Christian" is self-serving and not all that charitable as they expect a return on their largess.

Arkansas Granny

(31,535 posts)
4. I would love to ask my boss that question, but we resolved not to talk politics when GWB was in offi
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 09:11 AM
Sep 2020

I once heard him say (before Trump) that he always votes Republican because of his Christian principles. I don't know how his conscience let's him vote for Trump.

This is a man who attends church (Southern Baptist) every Sunday, teaches Sunday School, family man, honest in his business dealing and just an all around good guy.

He despises men who talk and act like Trump, but I'm pretty sure he's going to vote for him anyway.

Girard442

(6,086 posts)
11. "I can't understand why a dog would do that disgusting thing."
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 09:59 AM
Sep 2020

"Well, real dogs would never do that."

"Then you're saying just about every dog you meet isn't a real dog?"

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,374 posts)
12. The church of "I got mine, and screw you". nt
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 10:03 AM
Sep 2020

Thanks partially to RBG, Amy Barrett was welcomed into a law school, previously a male-dominated field.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
13. Oh, they want people to have health care.....IF they look like them
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 10:11 AM
Sep 2020

But not the ones are dissimilar in appearance.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. I once read a very wise opinion
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 04:17 PM
Sep 2020

that said this country, if it were 100% white, would have the best social safety net in the world. I'm convinced that is true.

Midnight Writer

(21,819 posts)
20. The Christian Establishment gained power through charity. Government programs threaten that power.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 04:13 PM
Sep 2020

Used to be if you were poor and/or sick, you had to petition Churches for relief.

Under their conditions.

Now many can apply for government programs, taking power away from the Churches.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. I have argued this with them and they insist it should
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 04:15 PM
Sep 2020

be charity and not the government.

But then they cannot explain why charity was not working in this "Christian nation" because if it were, then no one would have proposed a government program.

Problem is, their Christian nation does not follow any Christian principles.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
27. If charity worked, there would be no one living under bridges or children going to bed hungry
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 04:24 PM
Sep 2020
There would be NO one filing for bankruptcy because of medical bills or struggling to take their child to the doctor. There would be no elderly person struggling to find money to pay for their prescriptions.

Of course, if THIS COUNTRY worked as it should, none of those things would be happening either, but we would rather spend our taxes on bullets and other things that kill people.

Celerity

(43,590 posts)
28. it is a fake quote, but still holds massive truth:
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 04:26 PM
Sep 2020
I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

7 Gandhi Quotes That Are Totally Fake

https://gizmodo.com/7-gandhi-quotes-that-are-totally-fake-1716503435
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