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NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:10 PM Sep 2020

Why are Cuban-Americans still so aggressively right wing?

Yikes.

I saw a Afro-Cuban-American man drive a pickup truck in Sayreville today with a large Trump flag next to his Cuban flag.

He looked angry, 23-year old or younger, with a lot of tattoos, and a beard.

Castro is no longer in power.

Why are they still obsessed with "socialism"?

Did Batista do a number on them or what?

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Why are Cuban-Americans still so aggressively right wing? (Original Post) NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 OP
Decades of propaganda hlthe2b Sep 2020 #1
I've wondered why they don't see Trump as another Castro!!! Aviation91 Sep 2020 #3
They aren't starving under Trump JI7 Sep 2020 #7
They weren't starving under President Obama! Aviation91 Sep 2020 #30
Many supported Obama . He won Florida both times . JI7 Sep 2020 #32
Batista was overthrown in 1959 and the guy was around 23? Autumn Sep 2020 #2
Trump is neither religious or conservative! Aviation91 Sep 2020 #4
for some religious conservatism just means being anti gay , anti choice JI7 Sep 2020 #9
But they believe that he is... right-wing media sees to that. SMC22307 Sep 2020 #11
Tell that to his followers. And all those evangelicals who worship him. Autumn Sep 2020 #13
He's a young man. He had a lot of tattoos. His girlfriend is a white Cuban with a MAGA hat on. NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 #5
And ? JI7 Sep 2020 #8
You could see all this from your car? cwydro Sep 2020 #14
They went into ShopRite with a MAGA hats and she had a Cuban flag on the hat. She's a white Cuban. NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 #19
So wearing a hat with a national flag on it is a defacto announcement of nationality? LanternWaste Sep 2020 #22
I heard the two of them yapping while shopping NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 #23
First you saw them in the MAGA truck. cwydro Sep 2020 #26
Probably got it from their parents NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 #31
Funny, in my 25 years in Florida, people with "thick" Cuban accents generally speak in Spanish. cwydro Sep 2020 #35
Wow, this couple was really outfitted with the MAGA/Cuban twinset. cwydro Sep 2020 #24
Because life sucked under Castro JI7 Sep 2020 #6
I don't think most are aggressively right wing. Not as much as non hispanic white people JI7 Sep 2020 #10
Oh goodie, more tales from Sayreville! (n/t) SMC22307 Sep 2020 #12
+ , Hillary actually got more Cuban American votes than Obama JI7 Sep 2020 #17
Sayreville is the Missouri/Ohio/Florida of New Jersey NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 #21
Do you ask them why they support Trump? SMC22307 Sep 2020 #38
Tales from Sayreville! cwydro Sep 2020 #28
Yes. Sayreville is a aggressive blue collar bastion of all races. NYCButterfinger Sep 2020 #33
Did you reach out to the Biden/Harris campaign to suggest they campaign there? (n/t) SMC22307 Sep 2020 #39
It is part of their identity martouf Sep 2020 #15
They hate everything about their Cuban experience and equate it to distorted notions of socialism. BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #16
Because they love "machismo" bluecollar2 Sep 2020 #18
Cool story. You seem to have a lot of them. LanternWaste Sep 2020 #20
Amazing isn't it? Kingofalldems Sep 2020 #34
Most of those who left Cuba Tennessee Hillbilly Sep 2020 #25
But many of them are dead. Others continued coming after becsuse life sucked JI7 Sep 2020 #27
It got passed down to the younger generations MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #29
Trump's Hispanic children in cages are the 'other' Hispanics. keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #36
The hate does get passed down.. After working in Miami for many years you see it and hear it. mitch96 Sep 2020 #37

JI7

(89,235 posts)
32. Many supported Obama . He won Florida both times .
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:55 PM
Sep 2020

Hillary actually did better with Cubans than Obama also.

Autumn

(44,958 posts)
2. Batista was overthrown in 1959 and the guy was around 23?
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:15 PM
Sep 2020

Cubans are very religious and very conservative.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
11. But they believe that he is... right-wing media sees to that.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:25 PM
Sep 2020

Have people not figured this out yet?

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
19. They went into ShopRite with a MAGA hats and she had a Cuban flag on the hat. She's a white Cuban.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:48 PM
Sep 2020

I know a lot of white Cubans

My Senator, Bob Menendez, is a white Cuban Democrat.

Ironically.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
22. So wearing a hat with a national flag on it is a defacto announcement of nationality?
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:52 PM
Sep 2020

I s'pose I can't wear my t-shirt with the Greek flag on it.

Unironically.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
26. First you saw them in the MAGA truck.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:13 PM
Sep 2020

Now the story has progressed to the "yapping" in the store.

Curious that they're so young, yet have a "thick Cuban accent." So do you think they're recent arrivals?

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
31. Probably got it from their parents
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:54 PM
Sep 2020

Yes.

Their car was near mine at the parking lot

I went in the store, they went in the store.

As I was shopping for butter, I heard them in their thick Cuban-American accent.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
35. Funny, in my 25 years in Florida, people with "thick" Cuban accents generally speak in Spanish.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:01 PM
Sep 2020

Why speak to one another in English? My Cuban friends, even those fluent in English, usually spoke to each other in Spanish. Quite a normal thing.

So these young people have grown up in the US, but speak with "thick" accents? Never saw that in Florida either.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
24. Wow, this couple was really outfitted with the MAGA/Cuban twinset.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:54 PM
Sep 2020

I lived in Florida for years and knew plenty of Cubans. But just looking at a white woman would not clue me in as to whether she was of Cuban descent or not. Same with looking at a black man.

I have a hat with the Irish flag on it. No MAGA hats though. Wearing a hat with an Irish flag on it doesn't make me Irish.

JI7

(89,235 posts)
6. Because life sucked under Castro
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:18 PM
Sep 2020

It doesn't matter if the right winger before sucked also.

What they remember is losing what they had and starvation.

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
21. Sayreville is the Missouri/Ohio/Florida of New Jersey
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:51 PM
Sep 2020

Biden should stop by the NJ region after the debates to shore up WWC voters.

NJ is Lean D in my eyes.

I see a lot of MAGAites walking around in NJ.

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
33. Yes. Sayreville is a aggressive blue collar bastion of all races.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:56 PM
Sep 2020

A place any person would want to campaign if they want to be president.

 

martouf

(32 posts)
15. It is part of their identity
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:43 PM
Sep 2020

I lived in Miami for years. Back at the time Elian Gonzalaz was returned to his father. Returning him to his father caused riots. Something that would never be questioned anywhere else if a child were returned to a surviving parent when their other parent died. His father had never been accused of abuse, nor any mistreatment.

The Cubans in Miami that left Cuba on nice, safe passenger jets or other perfectly nice and safe transports were the upper-class Cubans who had been in league directly or indirectly with the Batista government. The people who benefited from Batista being in power. They are the ones who became Republican supporters. They are not the Marielitos who came later, in the 80's. Who can be considered exiles.

They call themselves "exiles" even though Castro never formally exiled them. They gained favor with the hard-right of our nation because they were anti-Castro. Anti-communist. If Cuba had not been seen as a strategic island where the US should prevent the take hold of Communism within mere miles of the US border they would be nothing today. They would be like the Haitian immigrants. Poor and out of favor.

Instead, the US government propped them up and gave them money to oppose Castro and communism in Cuba.

The Cubans I met from this middle and upper-class tier were very proud of their Cuban heritage. As they should be. They were also blind to the fact the US is just as repressive a regime as any Castro regime. They all held a certain identity of being Cuban and being morally superior to Castro and his revolutionaries. I would expect the courtiers of Louis the XVI and Marie Antoinette who escaped the guillotine felt similarly. As if they were the poor persecuted exiles.

They naturally became part of the Republican party. It is the party of rich people. People who do favors, al la 'Batista, for one another.

We all know parents instill beliefs in their children. Both true and false. The Cubans who are part of the Republican party are the people who are more than happy to have theirs while others of their kind suffer. It's not about fairness with them. It is, like anyone in the GOP, about money and power.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Cool story. You seem to have a lot of them.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:49 PM
Sep 2020

Yikes.

I saw an elderly Latino woman at the store today purchasing kale.

She looked benign, over 70 or older, with a hair net and a mask.

Kale is no longer a hispter purchase.

Why would she still be buying kale?

What do you think we should make of that? Something tough and nonsense, maybe?

25. Most of those who left Cuba
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:03 PM
Sep 2020

Most of those who left Cuba for Miami in 1959 were wealthy privileged people who had depended on the corruption of the Batista dictatorship for most of their wealth and income. When Castro came to power, there was a brief window of opportunity which allowed them to gather as much cash as they could and get out. They hated Castro because his overthrow of Batista had cost them their privileged position in society and much of their wealth.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,577 posts)
29. It got passed down to the younger generations
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:18 PM
Sep 2020

That said, I don't think all Cubans are like this anymore. Certainly not the younger ones. Batista and Castro both sucked.

keithbvadu2

(36,626 posts)
36. Trump's Hispanic children in cages are the 'other' Hispanics.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:31 PM
Sep 2020

Trump's Hispanic children in cages are the 'other' Hispanics.

mitch96

(13,869 posts)
37. The hate does get passed down.. After working in Miami for many years you see it and hear it.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 09:17 PM
Sep 2020

Kids who were not even born are very emotional about the subject. What comes up many times is how that "democrat kennedy" ruined the bay of pigs invasion. That killed the over throw of Castro and taking back the island.. It's the Democrats fault... Also they are very much into business which is a bastion of Republicanism in Miami... Latin or not.. YMMV
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