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Tomorrow will be fucking GLORIOUS!!!! He's fucking BROKE!!! (Original Post) NightWatcher Sep 2020 OP
And where did all the cash come from to make exboyfil Sep 2020 #1
Russia...n/t bluecollar2 Sep 2020 #2
And China, And Deutsche Bank ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author vapor2 Sep 2020 #39
Should Have Mentioned That ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #52
Remember when the Con announced his candidacy & said he was worth 10 Billion? onetexan Sep 2020 #66
The Asset Base Was $10.2 Billion ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #73
And our system supported it, and cilla4progress Sep 2020 #77
... Alacritous Crier Sep 2020 #4
Putin has bdamomma Sep 2020 #8
pootie has tweezers. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #11
and a magnifying glass. patphil Sep 2020 #47
Did this guy send Mr. Trump's tax returns to the NYT? NCjack Sep 2020 #26
That would be an interesting twist.... paleotn Sep 2020 #70
Money laundering, perhaps? dlk Sep 2020 #18
I have a strong suspicion that Deutsche Bank laundered Russian money for Trump. Lasher Sep 2020 #38
You make a good point dlk Sep 2020 #40
This will be the next shoe to drop. Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #45
Debt financing..... paleotn Sep 2020 #69
You're supposed to say it like this: Russia, Russia, Russia. tblue37 Sep 2020 #85
Cough! Kickbacks superpatriotman Sep 2020 #3
He hates this more than the 200k deaths MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #5
Agreed, b/c this is all about him, and babylonsister Sep 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author mucifer Sep 2020 #6
The United States of America . . . Iliyah Sep 2020 #7
There will be industrial-scale looting of our Treasury before he leaves office. dalton99a Sep 2020 #10
That happened a while ago. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #31
Remember, Mnuchin and Trump won't tell us Sogo Sep 2020 #55
Yep. dalton99a Sep 2020 #57
👆👆👆 crickets Sep 2020 #84
Adelson and Marcus cut checks Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #12
It can't outrun its debt! BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #13
Does he call off the debate? Tom Traubert Sep 2020 #14
I wouldn't be surprised if he has some sort of emergency on Tuesday Rorey Sep 2020 #44
'want to spend more time with family so no debate....' sprinkleeninow Sep 2020 #83
Maybe not this debate Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #51
Have designated debate topics or questions ever stopped any candidate . . . Tom Traubert Sep 2020 #56
Yes, and a competent moderator Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #61
I had heard they left a spot open for late breaking issues rufus dog Sep 2020 #60
But not Climate Change Capperdan Sep 2020 #88
Hummmm . . . Who would have thunk it? peggysue2 Sep 2020 #15
That's all he does is pretend. He's a poser president pandr32 Sep 2020 #64
Broke and shuffling money around to keep creditors at bay Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #16
Putting money into Trump was the best investment Putin ever made. keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #17
I've seen so many "glorious" announcements here over the years. cwydro Sep 2020 #19
First story on the NBC evening news tonight's about his taxes! kimbutgar Sep 2020 #20
BROKE TAX CHEAT TO INSTALL THIRD SUPREME COURT JUSTICE Blue Owl Sep 2020 #21
Didn't someone once say safeinOhio Sep 2020 #22
Him not paying taxes 10 out 15 years has been common knowledge since the election yaesu Sep 2020 #23
This Better Be Something Wallace Asks On Tuesday ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #25
I hope Biden brings it up if Wallace doesn't. nt yaesu Sep 2020 #35
I hope (Future President) Biden brings his own tax return to the debate NT Rorey Sep 2020 #46
That's a good idea. Biden could walk in, walk over to Chris Wallace Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #62
Might keep The Orange Pustule from bringing up Hunter Biden... GopherGal Sep 2020 #89
I'd bet the roots go historically deep bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #27
B.A.T. "Broke Ass Trump" Hahahahaha :) nt Sloumeau Sep 2020 #28
Macaroni in a pot NightWatcher Sep 2020 #30
Fitzmas at last? QED Sep 2020 #29
Unfortunately so is America. gibraltar72 Sep 2020 #32
Not only is he broke but he's got dozens, if not hundreds, of tax violations... George II Sep 2020 #33
Yeah, you don't get to deduct that Rorey Sep 2020 #48
From what I read about trump tower, many of the public areas are infested with roaches... George II Sep 2020 #50
Doesn't romney not fooled Sep 2020 #65
And that's one bill he actually shouldn't have moonscape Sep 2020 #68
K&R BlueJac Sep 2020 #34
Maybe Trump Tower will be repossessed Darwin2019 Sep 2020 #36
ALL HIS PROPERTIES! WHAT A DUMB A**! Will add that to my prays tonight!... Illumination Sep 2020 #82
My prediction is tomorrow will be... sarisataka Sep 2020 #37
How soon before we find out the whole family is involved in tax fraud duforsure Sep 2020 #41
on Ivanka... Tax fraud NightWatcher Sep 2020 #42
I'd be fine with them all skipping out of the country in the dark of night Rorey Sep 2020 #49
No, they all need to be in prison. Delmette2.0 Sep 2020 #53
I do agree, but I'd still be fine with them leaving Rorey Sep 2020 #58
Looks like Eric and Don, Jr. will have to get jobs mowing lawns after school. Aristus Sep 2020 #43
Who would trust either of those two idiots to work a lawnmower? tclambert Sep 2020 #59
Who would hire them? Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #63
I want to see Ivanka dressed up in moonscape Sep 2020 #67
Maybe she can hawk Goya beans for a living. tblue37 Sep 2020 #87
I just hope TheDemsshouldhireme Sep 2020 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author Warpy Sep 2020 #71
And these loan sharks will want to collect NOW! BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #74
So now we know why trump kisses Putin's arse. appleannie1 Sep 2020 #72
Thank you Mary Trump & N.Y. Times!! We LOVE YOU!... Illumination Sep 2020 #75
Glorious is the perfect word. Right now I am giddy amuse bouche Sep 2020 #76
I hope all the valuables in the White House are nailed down. unitedwethrive Sep 2020 #78
No kidding. That's not even a joke any more. nt crickets Sep 2020 #86
I wish I were a fly on the wall in the Oval Office. TruckFump Sep 2020 #79
HE IS SO VERY SCREWED & WE ALL ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS DAY! PAYBACKS ARE A BITCH! Illumination Sep 2020 #80
I will sleep like a baby tonight. sarcasmo Sep 2020 #81

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
1. And where did all the cash come from to make
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 05:46 PM
Sep 2020

those purchases the last few years before entering the White House?

Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #24)

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
66. Remember when the Con announced his candidacy & said he was worth 10 Billion?
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:17 PM
Sep 2020

hmm where are those illusive billions? more like in the red hundreds of millions under

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
73. The Asset Base Was $10.2 Billion
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:33 PM
Sep 2020

Except it wasn't.
The Moody's reports showed the asset value to be overstated by 20%.
When he first announced he claimed 10.2 in assets, 5.4 in debt.
With the pandemic driven devaluation of commercial real estate values, the assets are probably down another 19 or 12% and there is at least 1.3 billion in undeclared debt.
This genius turned $390 million into, at most, 700 million, or 80% gain over 30 years.
At best, it's a 2% ROIC over 30 years. A thirty year period where the major indices averaged over 10%.
He is, at best, a horrible financier. At worst, he's broke.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
70. That would be an interesting twist....
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:26 PM
Sep 2020

Not outside the realm of possibilities, but I think we have a new Deep Throat.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
38. I have a strong suspicion that Deutsche Bank laundered Russian money for Trump.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:28 PM
Sep 2020

Might be why Deutsche is the only bank in the world dumb enough to loan money to him.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
69. Debt financing.....
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:21 PM
Sep 2020

When comparing his debts to the market value of his assets, he's probably bankrupt. Being kept alive by refinancing debt endlessly and infusions of cash from his "investors", which is really just more debt he owes. He blew all of dad's cash and is in hock up to his orange eyeballs and beyond. Of course, some of his debtors collect with tea spiked with radioactive isotopes. And we thought loan sharks were tough.

If I were a regulator, I'd want to know why a financial institution was willing to extend hundreds of millions in additional debt to a business that's practically bankrupt. I'm sure that financial institutions shareholders would like to know too. Deutche Bank has a ton more explaining to do.

Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. The United States of America . . .
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:02 PM
Sep 2020

probably broke also. shithole runs businesses to the ground. Shithole has spent 1 billion dollars from his campaign, on what?????

Now he is using taxpayers money to campaign on, but alas, the republican congress ignores it.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
55. Remember, Mnuchin and Trump won't tell us
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:59 PM
Sep 2020

where that 1/2 trillion dollars went that was the business bailout money from the CARES Act.

There's no doubt in my mind that he pocketed a huge amount of that....



 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. Adelson and Marcus cut checks
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:17 PM
Sep 2020

in the neighborhood of 50 mill total a week ago. BTW,in return,Adelson ends up with the Ambassador's House in Israel. Not to shabby eh.






 

Tom Traubert

(117 posts)
14. Does he call off the debate?
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:21 PM
Sep 2020

Trump is going to get shellacked. Biden is going to make his personal tax returns front and center and at least imply that he’s a tax cheat if he doesn’t say it explicitly.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
44. I wouldn't be surprised if he has some sort of emergency on Tuesday
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:36 PM
Sep 2020

Like maybe he'll have to go to get another emergency physical.

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Mr.Bill

(24,291 posts)
51. Maybe not this debate
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:51 PM
Sep 2020

because it's not on the list of debate topics. This could very well be the last debate, though.

 

Tom Traubert

(117 posts)
56. Have designated debate topics or questions ever stopped any candidate . . .
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:00 PM
Sep 2020

from providing a completely non-responsive answer that addresses a question that hasn’t actually been asked?

Biden should hijack the first question and start his response by citing intervening facts that suggest criminal conduct by a sitting President and merit a response and further inquiry. Trump will respond “fake news,” and Biden should be prepared to pounce. It’ theater, and th epublic will be expecting it.

Mr.Bill

(24,291 posts)
61. Yes, and a competent moderator
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:08 PM
Sep 2020

will steer the conversation back to the topic. Sure, you can get a jab or two in there, but I would rather see it presented as a separate and specific topic. Such as "The personal finances of the two candidates" or something like that.

Answering a question with a non-answer that tries to change the topic is not Biden's style. Nor should it be. Let's leave that to the Trumps and Palins of the political world.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
60. I had heard they left a spot open for late breaking issues
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:01 PM
Sep 2020

If Fox doesn't bring this up then it is straight up malpractice. (Regardless Joe will anyway)

From a CBS News story on the debates. Seems to be relevant to Topic 1 doesn't it?


Format: The commission said that this debate will be "divided into six segments of approximately 15 minutes each." Wallace has chosen six topics, subject to change:

The Trump and Biden Records
The Supreme Court
COVID-19
The Economy
Race and Violence in our Cities
The Integrity of the Election


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/presidential-debate-2020-schedule-joe-biden-donald-trump/

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
15. Hummmm . . . Who would have thunk it?
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:23 PM
Sep 2020

Turns out Don the Con was better at pretending to be a successful businessman than actually being one. Liar, liar, pant on fire. Again!

Hahahahaha!

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
23. Him not paying taxes 10 out 15 years has been common knowledge since the election
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:44 PM
Sep 2020

what isn't known is how much fraud is involved and we know that will be major.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
25. This Better Be Something Wallace Asks On Tuesday
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 06:47 PM
Sep 2020

If he doesn't, he's no longer even slightly a journalist.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
89. Might keep The Orange Pustule from bringing up Hunter Biden...
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 10:39 AM
Sep 2020

The Ivanka aspect of the implied likely tax fraud may blunt the "Hunter" weapon somewhat.

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. Not only is he broke but he's got dozens, if not hundreds, of tax violations...
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:05 PM
Sep 2020

Deducting $84,000 to Ivanka's hair stylist as "consulting fees"?

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
48. Yeah, you don't get to deduct that
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:39 PM
Sep 2020

If he was human enough to have pets, he would have listed them as dependents.

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. From what I read about trump tower, many of the public areas are infested with roaches...
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:46 PM
Sep 2020

Dependents?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
41. How soon before we find out the whole family is involved in tax fraud
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:33 PM
Sep 2020

Bank fraud insurance fraud, money laundering, and bribes , and kickbacks , and payoffs for policies, and embezzling money from the government, and more. Bet trumps sister isn't going to sleep well tonight. I also think Nancy has some things left to expose trump with too, involving him and putin? Bankruptcy looming for trump ?

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
58. I do agree, but I'd still be fine with them leaving
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:01 PM
Sep 2020

Then we wouldn't have to look at them anymore, and we'd also have the knowledge and satisfaction that wherever they end up, they'd be living in shame.

Nobody would want them. They won't be welcome anywhere. Even Putin will no longer have use for them.

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
59. Who would trust either of those two idiots to work a lawnmower?
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:01 PM
Sep 2020

They'd both have missing toes before lunchtime.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
67. I want to see Ivanka dressed up in
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:19 PM
Sep 2020

a costume holding one of those big signs on a street corner: "Haircuts for $9"

You know, an honest real job.

Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
72. So now we know why trump kisses Putin's arse.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:33 PM
Sep 2020

And all those secret discussions were probably begging for more money and the dejection after the last meeting was possibly because Putin said "no". You owe me now.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
79. I wish I were a fly on the wall in the Oval Office.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:47 PM
Sep 2020

I bet he is SCREAMING mad over this disclosure.

LMAO!!!!!! No one deserves being embarrassed more than the Orange Asshole.



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