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moose65

(3,169 posts)
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:38 PM Sep 2020

Does anyone remember the "House banking scandal" from the early 90s?

This happened right before the Republicans won control of the House for the first time in 40 years, in 1994. Gingrich and his buddies elevated this to a "scandal" even though it had been going on for years, and wasn't much of a scandal, really. Gingrich himself had bounced some checks with the House bank, but it was mainly Democrats who got in trouble.

The reason why it resonated so much with the public was because it was an issue that the public could understand. It didn't involve arcane congressional rules or governmental double-talk. The average person knew what it meant to bounce a check, and they were angry that House members could get away with that.

In a similar way, the fact that Trump only paid $750 in taxes will resonate with people. Most people can wrap their heads around $750. It's not some ridiculous millionaire-only number.

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Does anyone remember the "House banking scandal" from the early 90s? (Original Post) moose65 Sep 2020 OP
I recall the scandal Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #1
was this the one with "Silverado" bank stillcool Sep 2020 #2
No. Sneederbunk Sep 2020 #3
Do you know what the OP stillcool Sep 2020 #4
It is the House Banking Scandal obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #7
No, it was the House Bank. It effectively gave members free overdraft protection... JHB Sep 2020 #5
thank you! stillcool Sep 2020 #9
No, this was different moose65 Sep 2020 #6
thank you so much... stillcool Sep 2020 #8
I do... but it wasn't as bipartisan as you remember FBaggins Sep 2020 #10
True, and I didn't mean to imply otherwise moose65 Sep 2020 #11

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
2. was this the one with "Silverado" bank
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:57 PM
Sep 2020

that Neil Bush was involved in...savings and loan thing? Happened around the time of the BCCI thing. What a wicked web that one weaved.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
4. Do you know what the OP
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:14 PM
Sep 2020

is referring to? You obviously 'know' it has nothing to do with the two banking scandals of the early 90's that I recall, so what is it?

JHB

(37,163 posts)
5. No, it was the House Bank. It effectively gave members free overdraft protection...
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:16 PM
Sep 2020

...so that their checks would not bounce, at a time when overdraft protection of any kind was rare to non-existent for regular people.

Gingrich leaned on it heavily, calling it a "check-kiting scam", to do what he always does, get people red-eyed angry so they'll stampede in a direction he wants. He wanted to paint Democrats as cheating, criminal elitists, and worked this hard toward painting that picture.

moose65

(3,169 posts)
6. No, this was different
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:24 PM
Sep 2020

I just looked it up again, and the House bank had existed for 150 years before it was shut down in 1991. It wasn't really a bank in the strictest sense of the word - it was only for House members (not sure about the Senate), and it was really just another perk of office. House members could have their paychecks deposited there, and they could write checks from the account, but the money earned no interest. There was also no penalty for insufficient funds, so members could bounce a check without penalty, and the House bank would cover the check using other member's deposits.

It really wasn't much of a scandal, and it seems almost quaint in the Trump era. But back then, I can remember people really being upset about it, and it played right into Republican hands, even though many Republicans had used the House bank and bounced checks themselves. Gingrich and Company used it against Democrats during the 1992 and 1994 elections, and it became sort of a symbol of how out-of-touch House members were, not having to follow rules that everyone else followed.

After the House bank was shut down, Congress members had to use the Federal Credit Unions that were already available to them, but they couldn't bounce checks any more!

FBaggins

(26,775 posts)
10. I do... but it wasn't as bipartisan as you remember
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:48 PM
Sep 2020

There were hundreds of members who had overdrawn their accounts at least once... and yes, for most Americans, that's enough of a scandal (WE didn't have the option of interest-free loans).

But to be fair, it was "mainly Democrats who got in trouble" because they were the worst offenders with just a few exceptions. We had controlled the House for decades and some members really did start treating it as something they were entitled to.

It's a big part of why we lost control of the House for the first time that most could remember... AND it woke many Democrats up in a way that brought control of the House back to us (as it is today)



moose65

(3,169 posts)
11. True, and I didn't mean to imply otherwise
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 02:04 PM
Sep 2020

Yes, because the Democrats had controlled the House for 40 years, there were more of them who used the House Bank, and they got used to having the choice to bounce checks.

I also read that the House bank did not send out monthly statements, and that all of their bookkeeping was done by hand in ledgers. Nothing was computerized. A lot of members probably didn't even know that they were bouncing checks!

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