I am looking at the Nytimes report of his businesses and the losses ... Something struck me

[Le Roi de Pot]

I am thinking aloud here.


Donald Trump has always wanted to belong to the rarified Manhattan elites and has desperately tried all his life to be one of them.

He tried building what he thinks are 'classy' properties that they would love.

But they don't want him ... They see his brand as tacky and crass. And consequently Donald Trump's golf resorts etc is hemorrhaging money ....

Donald Trump is probably very aware of this and it eats away at him....The rise of Obama and how he was embraced by the people he has tried to impress all his life - just scrambled his brain. It is that visceral rage that he channels and that a lot of Magats identify with.


Am I wrong?

[SoonerPride]

1. You are not wrong

He eats steak well done with ketchup.

He is boorish and crude and a known grifter who doesn't pay his bills.

He laminates everything in gold leaf.

He is a poor mans idea of a rich man.
He is a weak mans idea of a strong man.

He is a terrible failure as a president, as a business man, as a father, and as a human being.

He is not now and will never be a member of the elite class of New York society.

[Laelth]

9. +1 n/t

-Laelth

[stage left]

16. +

He should be broken and driven from all decent society. Lock him up.

[CaptYossarian]

18. If his brand were a store, it'd be KKK-Mart.

His claim of being a billionaire is true...in the negative.

[SoonerPride]

25. Hahaha

Bazinga!

[CaptYossarian]

61. Thanks.

[Tumbulu]

32. That is the BEST! nt

[CaptYossarian]

60. Thanks.

[smirkymonkey]

38. +1000

[soldierant]

51. You left out "a stupid man's idea of a smart man."

And there are probably other dichotomies which also fit.

[SoonerPride]

53. Yes. So many!

[Squidly]

62. Eating his steak well done with ketchup

should be an impeachable offense right there! Its almost unamerican!!!

[LizBeth]

2. And he is a privileged, life long, racist.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. The fact that Obama is black and was nevertheless accepted where he wasn't

probably is especially rankling.

[MyOwnPeace]

8. Yep - Obama put him over the edge!!!!!

[Le Roi de Pot]

15. This video has been the balm for my tormented soul these past years

can always watch it

[MyOwnPeace]

23. I have VERY mixed emotions about it..........

I LOVE how brilliantly he did slam "The Donald!" And it wasn't just him - that was the national Press Corps and tons of celebrities and dignitaries from all over. Listen to THEIR reaction to PRESIDENT OBAMA'S comments. I'm sure "the donald" has played this over and over to make a list of more names to create his own "Nixon" enemies list.

The sad part?

What we've lost.

PRESIDENT OBAMA is such a brilliant man - so calm, so collected, so confident in who he is - yet so willing to listen, consider, and learn.
And doing all of this while being the subject of a true hate campaign by the RepubliCon party.

Ultimately, I cry for our country in what we've lost - and how so many are so blind to that fact.

[Hstch05]

17. I've seen versions of this were they cut to Trump

And you can just see the switch flip @ the 9:30 mark in the video. Obama, a black man, openly mocking him in front of a room full of people who ended up laughing at him. You just know he's replayed this moment over and over again a million times since it happened.

[Le Roi de Pot]

24. This in his mind has to be the worst humiliation he had suffered -- But

just you wait Donald --- Just you wait.


November 3rd is coming.

And the debt collectors soon after that.

[CaptYossarian]

19. Let's add the Time covers, the Nobel Peace Prize and the new Oscar.

The loving family, the worldwide love and respect...

[MyOwnPeace]

27. But wait!!!!!!

Doesn't "the donald" have his own copy of his "Time" cover hanging in Mar-a-Laga, as well as a $10,000 portrait of himself that his "charity" bought?

MY GAWD, what a GRIFTER!

[Le Roi de Pot]

29. You mean Merde-Lago?

[MyOwnPeace]

33. Oui, oui!!!!!!

(No, that has NOTHING to do with the pee-pee tapes!)

[dhol82]

47. And here I thought it was named Merde-a-Lardo?

[CaptYossarian]

59. He even unashamedly lies to himself.

rrounding himself with Yes people means he'll never get an intervention.

[pnwest]

28. Watching that clip again, and knowing

what we know now about Trump and his narcissism, this was three-dimensional chess on Obama’s part, again. He invited the Donald, then proceeded to serve him a dish of the very thing narcissists fear the most - ridicule. He not only made fun of him himself, he got the entire room of the very people Donald has always craved to part of to laugh at him, again and again. It was a master stroke of revenge, because it was so very personal in spite of being so public. Obama let trump know that he knew trump’s deepest fear, and used it against him. Brilliant. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/watch-inside-the-night-president-obama-took-on-donald-trump/

[MyOwnPeace]

30. Brilliant, indeed!!!!

[Le Roi de Pot]

31. Some people think - This really motivated Trump to become president

He used the humiliation heaped on him as fuel.

I am not sure about that. I think he never really wanted to be president. He just wanted to increase Brand awareness and value.

[MyOwnPeace]

34. And there is a new report about just that..............

There have been many articles about how he didn't really want the job, but rather, just the notoriety of it all and the chance to increase the coverage of his own businesses. (sorry, don't have the link to that - I'm sure it's easily found!).

[ms liberty]

46. And the icing on the cake was when later we found out that while Obama was

Busy publicly owning DJT, he had Seals on the way to what was a successful secret mission to kill OBL.

When you look up smooth in the dictionary, that's the visual aid.

[Windy City Charlie]

48. This

Ever since this, he's been trying to "get back" at Obama. The thing is, Trump has failed in every attempt. It's like the Looney Tunes cartoons, where one of the characters is trying to get either the RoadRunner or TweetyBird, and each every time they fail at their attempt. And it eats Trump alive.

[Rebl2]

36. I have

always thought that just did him in. Maybe he had multiple mini strokes when that happened and it scrambled his brain, but then I think it was long before that.

[MyOwnPeace]

41. "it scrambled his brain".................

I'm with 'ya - it happened LONG before that!!!!

[blaze]

52. Thanks. Hadn't seen that in a while. Helped my blood pressure. nt

[C_U_L8R]

4. Trump's target market is just like him

Phonies and wannabes. Tacky, tasteless, uncaring and selfish.
And very white.
Defiantly proud of their ignorance and ridiculed by 'society'.
But think they deserve it all.
In Trump, they have a champion. Not a very noble champion
but he belongs to them and vice versa.

[Walleye]

5. He has terrible taste in everything. You'd think he would've picked something up

[CaptYossarian]

20. You know he picked something up.

He doesn't wear condoms.

[Walleye]

22. 😝😂

[lame54]

6. Now they are labeled Anarchists

[suegeo]

7. The puppet is mobbed up

The Italian mob in NYC liked his father.
The puppet not so much.

There's another snub to add. Because of the snub, the Puppet worked with Rudy Giuliani to take them out.

Then the Russians moved in and took over. And Donnie laundered money for them.

[JHB]

10. Nope. Not wrong in the slightest.

It's always related as "old money snobs rejecting the kid from Queens", but that smacks of Trump PR. There was probably a bit of that, but it wasn't insurmountable.

What was insurmountable for Trump is the fact that he can't even fake having an ounce of class and style, and he was so obviously needy to be one of the "cool kids" that it, by itself, put people off.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Manhattan's "Elite" never accepted Trump because he was clueless about who they are.

They have money, old money.

Donald Trump is a generic nouveau riche, arriviste, parvenu. Trump believed all he needed to be invited to their homes, to join their clubs, to socialize with them, to be put on their Boards of Trustees and/or Directors was enough money. He believed that without blue blood and a family history, he would be welcomed.

Re-read The Great Gatsby. The tale of an outsider looking in and being punished for having the nerve to think he was as good as Tom, Daisy, and even Nick.

Trump thought he could entice them on a commercial basis. He was wrong. All he attracted was fellow nouveau riche who were more often than not celebrities. Trump was never invited to a soiree with Brooke Astor or Gloria Vanderbilt.

Heck, D.C. has its own social register, The Blue Book. I'll bet nobody has sought an invite the W.H. or even invited anyone in his administration for cocktails or one of their parties. They've closed ranks when Trump moved in January, 2017.

I believe it's been this built-up resentment that has been the reason for his manic behavior.

[JHB]

37. That framing leaves out how personally repellent Trump is

It wasn't just that they were old-money Manhattanites and he was a new-money kid from Queens. If there was ever a time to break out of the Gatsby mold and get acceptance into that crowd, it would have been the 70s and early 80s.

However, Donald himself cut off any possible inroads because of who he is, the parts that have nothing to do with where he was born. His personal crudity, his self-centeredness, his dictator-chic crass sense of style, his desperate need for external validation, his lack of interest in anything didn't put money in his pocket, praise in his ear, or get him laid, etc., repelled the old-money "cool kids" every bit as much as it repels us today.

It's not the reason for his behavior. It was an early manifestation of it.

[MyOwnPeace]

54. You nailed it, JHB........

That's exactly who he is!

[displacedtexan]

39. When Daddy's a slumlord...

It doesn't matter how much money you have. Unless you marry into one of the 100 families, you're not going to be accepted. And even then, you'll be treated like the ratcatcher behind your back.

[cachukis]

12. He cheats at golf. Golf is a rich man's game.

Real golfers don't cheat. They are lauded for owning up that they broke or bent the rule. If they get caught breaking the rule, ostracization follows.

[ProfessorGAC]

13. Sounds About Right To Me

Of course, the Manhattan elite in the financial industry probably knew he owed big money to everyone.
That knowledge would make him suspect in the minds of people who actually are good at making money.
Plus, he was probably putting the bite on everybody, all the time.
Who wants to be around that?
Obama was just a guy, not a scammer. Brilliant & humble. (As humble as people with high political aspirations can be, I suppose.)
Of course smart, successful people were going to be more willing to embrace him & his success.

[lunatica]

21. Yes, Obama and Michelle are humble

Humility and humbleness, for some strange reason, has been conflated with poverty and humiliation, perhaps due to literature, but in reality it is a state of mind. It is someone who is not arrogant or conceited about their power. A person who does not think they are superior to others, and believes that character and thoughtfulness and kindness are basic human values.

[JHB]

42. The OP is talking more about the socialites than the financial guys.

I think that's why if Trump came close to loving anybody but himself, it was Ivana. She could play the socialite game in ways that he was just incapable of comprehending.

[ProfessorGAC]

44. In NY, Those Are Many Of The Same People

But, it's a fact that he's not popular in the business world either.

[ashredux]

14. But the bottom line was Money Laundering... plain and simple

[LiberalArkie]

26. The mob has never been welcomed into the social elite

[Botany]

35. His whole life he has wanted to get into the NFL owners

... club but after he killed the USFL and by just being a dick the other owners blocked him out.

[appleannie1]

40. The garish gold etc. that he considers 'high class' reminds me of a bordello.

Fake gold looks like what it is. Fake.

[Illumination]

43. He's a reject from HELL!...

[lastlib]

50. No, he's NOT!

He's an EMISSARY!


Satan's Ambassador Plenipotentiary.

[Joinfortmill]

45. Nope. Sounds plausible to me.

[yaesu]

49. remember Leona Helmsley? She was a female tRump and the elite class loved her. nt

[Le Roi de Pot]

56. She probably was smart enough to be subservient to them.

[Boogiemack]

55. Nope. You are not wrong. And it is with that same kind of envious rage the MAGAs walk. nt

[Martin Eden]

57. "Tacky and crass"

... are among the most benign adjectives which accurately describe this POtuS.

[calimary]

58. Nope. I think you nailed it.

You're not wrong. You make a lot of sense.