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brooklynite

(94,540 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:22 PM Sep 2020

I played Trump in Clinton's debate prep. Here's what Biden can expect.

Washington Post

Donald Trump is a very bad debater. Donald Trump is very difficult to debate.

These two seemingly contradictory statements are equally true. He’s a dangerous opponent. In 2016, it was because he had nothing to lose. Now, it’s because he has everything to lose.

I would know. In the last cycle, I had a unique assignment: playing Trump’s stand-in during Hillary Clinton’s mock debates. Before donning the ill-fitting suit I had tailored, my preparation included studying the 11 Republican primary debates in which Trump participated, watching each three times: once start to finish; then only exchanges involving Trump; and finally only Trump, standing at a lectern in my living room with the sound off to focus entirely on his gestures and body language.

Mimicking his appearance, gesticulations and histrionics aside, my overall approach meant zeroing in on the four topics that obsessed Trump: immigration, Obamacare, trade and “the swamp.” When he was on offense, his attacks on (and nicknames for) Clinton were honed and simple by the time the debates began in September. But he rarely, if ever, defended himself. No matter the attack against him — and there were some doozies — he dispensed with them quickly. And in the GOP primary debates, his answers involved three parts: I am great; you are terrible; and a nonsensical digression that often changed the subject entirely.

Four years later, Trump is not different, but the circumstances are. The Trump we see at the first presidential debate in Cleveland on Tuesday may be even harder to debate than last time, because whatever ability he possessed to engage has been subsumed by a constant need to launch into tirades over grievances. (“I sort of prepare every day by just doing what I’m doing,” he told “Fox and Friends” about his pre-debate regimen.) He exists in a double bubble — isolated in the Oval Office, consuming and regurgitating nothing but friendly right-wing media and Twitter bile. And he’s desperate: The debate presents the first big chance to shake up a race he’s losing, but he doesn’t seem to have a plan to turn things around other than to hope for Joe Biden to collapse. After studying Trump in 2016, and our national tutorial every day since, here’s what I think Biden can expect as they face off three times over the next 24 days. (Although it was never really in doubt that Trump would debate, expect grumbling after the first exchange about being treated unfairly and noise about skipping the two others.)


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I played Trump in Clinton's debate prep. Here's what Biden can expect. (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2020 OP
Yeah, it's like trying to converse with a mentally unbalanced person frazzled Sep 2020 #1
He should steal Reagan's "there you go again" line SoonerPride Sep 2020 #2
This! eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #6
He should never address him as "Mr. President" or "sir". gordianot Sep 2020 #4
Exactly. No deference to him at all SoonerPride Sep 2020 #7
Trump is going to insult Biden relentlessly honest.abe Sep 2020 #3
Biden should ignore Trump and speak to the people, answering the questions he knows they want Boogiemack Sep 2020 #5
Biden only has to do one thing: Bayard Sep 2020 #8

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. Yeah, it's like trying to converse with a mentally unbalanced person
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:35 PM
Sep 2020

You can't really. Facts are of no use, and often just backfire.

But remember when Al Gore sighed and rolled his eyes in a debate once? He got skewered by the press, and it became as big an issue as Obama's tan suit.

During the first debate, Gore’s overdramatic attempts to emphasize how exasperated he was with Bush backfired big time. At several points, microphones caught Gore loudly sighing in response to Bush’s answers, which played into Republican arguments that he was arrogant and condescending.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/presidential-debates-errors-mistakes-gaffes-biggest-history-214279


No one would blame Biden for sighing or eye rolling (they might even want him to punch the guy in the face), but I guess he'd better not do that. I think the advice given in the article is good:

Biden should say early on that we all know what’s coming. Not to remind voters. But to remind Trump, by speaking on behalf of the majority of the country, that everyone is on to him, in a reversal of Trump’s favorite “everyone is saying” paralipsis device:
“C’mon, Mr. President. Everyone knows that whatever you call fake is real. Whatever you call a lie is the truth. Whatever you accuse others of doing is what you’ve done. And whatever you make fun of me for saying by accident only serves to deflect from what you say on purpose.”

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
4. He should never address him as "Mr. President" or "sir".
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:51 PM
Sep 2020

Call him in the familiar as Donald. When he does a good such as children do not spread COVID-19. “That’s a lie Donald”. Let us see if Mary Trump is right call him Donald. “You Donald are the the fake “

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
7. Exactly. No deference to him at all
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:17 PM
Sep 2020

He will call him Sleepy Joe so Biden just calls him Donald.
Or Donnie

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
3. Trump is going to insult Biden relentlessly
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:47 PM
Sep 2020

Not entirely sure the best way to handle it other than staying calm and not play too defensive. I think the best approach to keep reminding him this is a serious moment in the history of this country in the middle of pandemic and the economy on the verge of collapsing. No time for throwing around childish insults.

 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
5. Biden should ignore Trump and speak to the people, answering the questions he knows they want
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:58 PM
Sep 2020

answered. Biden should dismiss Trump just as Trump dismisses the questions thrown at him. A show of indifference will throw Trump off. A comment by Biden to one of tirade like "oh, ok, now let's get to real issue here..."

"Please, do not start smearing my son." "You really don't want me to talk about your children, do you?"

And, "Have you stopped cheating on your wife yet."

ok so none of that is serious but I would love to ask him in public.

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