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Their strategy now is very clear: MSNBCs Heilemann explains how Trump will exploit COVID-19 to steal the election
MSNBCs John Heilemann warned that President Donald Trump doesnt even seem to be trying to win a fair election anymore, and instead is exploiting the coronavirus pandemic to steal the election.
The Morning Joe contributor said the president was trying to widen the partisan gap between in-person and mail-in voting so he can challenge any vote thats not physically cast on Nov. 3.
Trump has focused explicitly on, how do I win the gameday vote? he said. How do I get my core base supporters to come out on Election Day, so on the gameday vote, I can put a flag in the ground and say, I won Pennsylvania on Election Day, in-person voting, and then after Election Day, all of those other votes, those tens of millions of votes that come in by mail, that have come in early, many of which are not going to be counted until after Election Day, then engage in a knife fight in the counting rooms, in the validation-certification process, in the courts, in the Electoral College, in the House of Representatives, ultimately.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/their-strategy-now-is-very-clear-msnbcs-heilemann-explains-how-trump-will-exploit-19-to-steal-the-election/
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)You can bet on that.
roamer65
(36,748 posts)Followed by the formation of separatist movements.
November, 1860.
tetedur
(820 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)but I believe this won't work and will backfire . . .
stick a fork in it, it's done.
brush
(53,971 posts)and it will be worse after that hot mess of a performance last night. He's losing bad and he knows it.
Sugarcoated
(7,736 posts)All the experts and journalists make it sound like Trump's scheme to take the count of mail in ballots to court/challenge of the ballots is a almost a given, but can that ploy actually work if Biden wins all the states he needs to win on election night? The election night results in FL, NC, OH seem possible but the blue wall states, MI, WI & PA, possibly AZ are looking like outright wins on election night for Joe.
Cosmocat
(14,583 posts)at what point till now has the normative system NOT buckled to him?
He stone walled Mueller, who never interviewed him, just did a half assed paper interview and due to them flat refusing to cooperate wrapped it up with SO much left unaddressed, then Barr held back his report to do his own report spinning it,
He ran roughshod over impeachment, again refusing to cooperate as he should, and the Senate completely rolled over.
He has totally evicerated the emoluments clause.
Kids are STILL locked in cages.
He used tear gas on citizens to do a shitty photo op in front of a church.
Everything Heilman layed out here IS going to happen.
Maybe it breaks our way, maybe it doesn't .
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)edhopper
(33,653 posts)in 2000
DemsIn2020
(81 posts)Trump has a bigger base and is more powerful then Bush in 2000..
instead of Brooks Brothers, they will be wearing AKs.
obamanut2012
(26,181 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Florida wasn't about the initial counts. Florida was about a recount. The Supreme Court ruled against Gore in that regard because he was advocating for only a partial recount and since the state has different recount procedures, or did in 2000, based on county, it was ruled unconstitutional under the Equal Protection Clause.
Nothing in this scenario is similar to that and we wouldn't be dealing with the idea of an actual recount but the initial count.
edhopper
(33,653 posts)of one Party's goons disrupting the counting is the same.
Only this time it will be in multiple States.
Count or recount, the same tactic.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)edhopper
(33,653 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)obamanut2012
(26,181 posts)edhopper
(33,653 posts)and in more States.
BeyondGeography
(39,393 posts)He makes a plausible point, but hes just a professional pot stirring buck chaser. Just like his old buddy Mark Halperin. Gives me the creeps.
crickets
(25,989 posts)ooky
(8,933 posts)Won't work. He's fucked. He fucked himself.