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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:12 PM Sep 2020

The ancient Neanderthal hand in severe COVID-19

Since first appearing in late 2019, the novel virus, SARS-CoV-2, has had a range of impacts on those it infects. Some people become severely ill with COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and require hospitalization, whereas others have mild symptoms or are even asymptomatic.

There are several factors that influence a person's susceptibility to having a severe reaction, such as their age and the existence of other medical conditions. But one's genetics also plays a role, and, over the last few months, research by the COVID-19 Host Genetics Initiative has shown that genetic variants in one region on chromosome 3 impose a larger risk that their carriers will develop a severe form of the disease.

Now, a new study, published in Nature, has revealed that this genetic region is almost identical to that of a 50,000-year old Neanderthal from southern Europe. Further analysis has shown that, through interbreeding, the variants came over to the ancestors of modern humans about 60,000 years ago.

"It is striking that the genetic heritage from Neanderthals has such tragic consequences during the current pandemic," said Professor Svante Pääbo, who leads the Human Evolutionary Genomics Unit at the Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology Graduate University (OIST).

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/09/200930094758.htm

This may also account for why severe Covid cases seem comparatively rare in sub-Saharan Africa.

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The ancient Neanderthal hand in severe COVID-19 (Original Post) Klaralven Sep 2020 OP
This is amazing science. lunatica Sep 2020 #1
Whoa! Faux pas Sep 2020 #2
I told my husband about this article this morning peggysue2 Sep 2020 #3
I have the highest % at 23 and Me too. But no diabetes. But this is kind of terrifying. Squinch Sep 2020 #6
Yeah, it is scary because it just adds to the risk factor peggysue2 Sep 2020 #21
Tell Him To Rock The Pony ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #7
My husband is retired as well peggysue2 Sep 2020 #22
Suit &Tie Here Too ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #23
There you go. peggysue2 Sep 2020 #26
Funny Stuff! ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #28
How do you find out what percentage of your DNA is Neanderthal? Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #8
Have you submitted your DNA to 23andMe? fleur-de-lisa Sep 2020 #12
I submitted mine twice, via saliva. panader0 Sep 2020 #13
Wow. That's weird. fleur-de-lisa Sep 2020 #15
Better URL CloudWatcher Sep 2020 #25
The SNP is not tested for by 23andMe's genotyping chip Spider Jerusalem Sep 2020 #29
This is so interesting. Thanks for posting! octoberlib Sep 2020 #4
Well trump is 100% Neanderthal, so what's his story???? BamaRefugee Sep 2020 #5
The evidence shows Neanderthals uriel1972 Sep 2020 #9
Not Sure About That ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #10
Maybe a Chrome-maga man. panader0 Sep 2020 #14
A shining example of our beginnings. marble falls Sep 2020 #24
Isn't it more cro-magnon? Anthro people? Help!! niyad Sep 2020 #17
Trump is 350 pounds of bat shit stuffed into a 239 pound bag. n/t iscooterliberally Sep 2020 #18
I'm not convinced he's any species of hominid. paleotn Sep 2020 #30
Seems I'm less than 2% Neanderthal Dem2 Sep 2020 #11
Explains why Trumpanzees think they're immune: interbred and neanderthal. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2020 #16
I think they're calling me an Ape Man that strayed from my clan bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #19
ohm myyy. as mr . spock would say" fascinating AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #20
My Neanderthal DNA is over 97% Casandia Sep 2020 #27
ya know. i have an autoimmune disease ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #31

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
1. This is amazing science.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:23 PM
Sep 2020

Future development in genetic science is going to change future human history.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
3. I told my husband about this article this morning
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:26 PM
Sep 2020

He has one of the highest Neanderthal %'s at 23 and Me and he has diabetes. Though he's been thinking of finally getting his hair cut (hasn't been to the barber since early March), he's now thinking a pony tail winter is in his future.

We just had an acquaintance die of Covid. Not worth the risk.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
21. Yeah, it is scary because it just adds to the risk factor
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 04:14 PM
Sep 2020

But as soon as I told him the details of the study, the hair cut was a goner. Which means he'll be looking like Jerry Garcia for the foreseeable future.

Stay safe, Squinch.

ProfessorGAC

(65,030 posts)
7. Tell Him To Rock The Pony
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:48 PM
Sep 2020

I do, and it has nothing to do with COVID!
It doesn't seem to bother anybody.
Of course, I'm retired so I have no concerns about professional appearance anymore.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
22. My husband is retired as well
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 04:21 PM
Sep 2020

So, that part's no problem. The long hair just bothers the hell out of him. He was a buttoned down, suit type in his former life, so this is a big departure. But he bought a Philly Phanatic headband for around the house (something I never thought I'd see) and wears a baseball cap when he goes out.

Gotta do what we gotta do. The ponytail is a-coming!

ProfessorGAC

(65,030 posts)
23. Suit &Tie Here Too
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 04:38 PM
Sep 2020

Last few years, things loosened up.
No coat, then no ties. Jeans were frowned upon, but anything generally professional.
Still, I had direct contact with $100 & $200 million customers, so I needed a reasonably benign appearance.
Had a moustache, but that's it.
I wanted longer hair, so when I announced my intention to retire in 14 months, I started letting it grow.
Got it trimmed twice, but the COVID hit.
So, I'm probably closing in on a year since a haircut.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
26. There you go.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 05:03 PM
Sep 2020

My husband was a corporate accountant and finance person. The company did become more casual over time. But conservative hair cuts and facial hair were still big issues.

He'll get use to the longer length. I thought it funny the other day when he asked me what he could do to avoid tangles after washing his 'longer' locks. Showed him where my conditioner was and gave him a flat brush to ease the tangles out. Also, suggested he dry his hair by patting his head and squeezing the ends instead of ruffling it up with the towel.

The look of bewilderment on his face was priceless. LOL.

He'll get it eventually.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
12. Have you submitted your DNA to 23andMe?
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:11 PM
Sep 2020

If so, log in and go to the 'Ancestry' tab. 'Neanderthal Ancestry' is near the top. Click on 'View Your Report.'

panader0

(25,816 posts)
13. I submitted mine twice, via saliva.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:21 PM
Sep 2020

I followed the instructions correctly and they informed me that they had no result.
So they sent me the second one and it also had no result. I have no DNA. What's it like folks?
(I may be extraterrestrial.)

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
15. Wow. That's weird.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:31 PM
Sep 2020

My brother and my daughter also submitted DNA to 23AndMe. No problems processing their results.

It's pretty interesting. The percentages of my ethnicity are pretty much what I thought they would be. My parents started geneology research in the 1970s, so I have a lot of information that was recorded in family Bibles.

One thing I find to be pretty cool is that every few years they are able to refine the results and pinpoint places of origin for your ancestors, I guess because they are constantly processing more DNA.

Odd story: my grandfather thought he had Native American blood, even though he had blond hair and blue eyes. Old family gossip-mongers suggested that his line had African and/or Native American ancestry. Not a drop. We're the whitest of the white people, with English, Irish, German, Swedish, and Swiss ancestry. I was hoping to find something at least a little interesting. Nada.

CloudWatcher

(1,848 posts)
25. Better URL
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 05:01 PM
Sep 2020

For alien dna results you might need to go to https://www.23andme.com/area51 .. not sure why they didn't let you know directly!? Oh, I just tested and it's blocked from terrestrial IP addresses, so you will need an off-planet VPN to see the web page.

For background ... https://www.ancient-code.com/scientists-find-alien-code-embedded-in-human-dna-evidence-of-ancient-alien-engineers/

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
29. The SNP is not tested for by 23andMe's genotyping chip
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 05:14 PM
Sep 2020

but it IS present on AncestryDNA's chip; if you've done AncestryDNA, the specific risk allele is rs10490770 (the Neanderthal variant is A:A at that locus, the modern human variant is T:T).

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
9. The evidence shows Neanderthals
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:50 PM
Sep 2020

had complex cultural and technological capabilities which the spittle-flecked trumpanzee does not possess.

ProfessorGAC

(65,030 posts)
10. Not Sure About That
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 02:50 PM
Sep 2020

His brain capacity seems more Australopithecus.
Neanderthal would be a couple steps up for PINO.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
30. I'm not convinced he's any species of hominid.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 05:35 PM
Sep 2020

More like some form of orange slim you scrape off your shoe.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
11. Seems I'm less than 2% Neanderthal
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:11 PM
Sep 2020

I guess this is on the low end as 23andMe suggests 90% of people they've tested have more Neanderthal in them.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
19. I think they're calling me an Ape Man that strayed from my clan
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 03:43 PM
Sep 2020

what did my ancestors see in this temptress, and why do I have to suffer for it?

Worrisome for southern Europeans

AllaN01Bear

(18,203 posts)
20. ohm myyy. as mr . spock would say" fascinating
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 04:09 PM
Sep 2020

a late friend of mine and i talked about this and she had postulated that modern man and Neanderthals did intermix and did interbreed. justification.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
31. ya know. i have an autoimmune disease
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 06:05 PM
Sep 2020

and i have a serious suspicion that there is a strong link between autoimmune diseases and neanderthal genes.
in my family, it is the gingers that are sick. those w black hair, blond hair or red hair are mostly fine. but us gingers? allllll fucking sick.

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