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I wanted to point out
something I heard Joe say, amid the cackling of Trump over "Law and Order."
And that is, that Joe said he believed in Law and Order AND JUSTICE.
Trump was whining that the Feds didn't get invited in to put down the rioting (a situation that I personally believe HE caused.) He said over and over, "Law and Order," which I think is his euphemism for suppression of free speech. But his focus was solely on the Dem governors' refusals to invite them in.
Joe, on the other hand, was inclusive. He just didn't get a chance to follow up on that idea because Trump was running his mouth.