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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. Because people there knew nothing would happen.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 07:46 PM
Sep 2020

If they knew that they had two choices, full statehood immediately or become an independent nation, my belief is they would choose full statehood.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
3. I would like to see us have no more territories.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 07:41 PM
Sep 2020

We should give each territory’s people a vote with two choices, become an independent nation, or become a full-fledged state in the United States of America.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. What is the benefit of that? They have no true representation, no
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:01 PM
Sep 2020

revenue sharing like the red states get. Being a territory is a mostly empty plate, IMO.

The only place that I would not want to become a state, and this will piss off some here, is DC, because of the very special and very unique status it holds as the federal government nexus, the glue that holds all the states together. I would like to see the federal government have more of a collaborative relationship with DC, instead of a domineering one.

Renew Deal

(81,896 posts)
13. I was indifferent about DC statehood prior to this year.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:10 PM
Sep 2020

Because I saw it as more of a local issue. But the abusive tactics were too much. The federal government has a right to defend themselves, but the tactics used such as closing residential neighborhoods, unmarked thugs, etc. were too much.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. We have a thug in the White House.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:16 PM
Sep 2020

That is why racists are emboldened and other ills like having police attack peacefully protesting citizens. We must never let a person like Trump win office ever again, and we should get rid of his republican collaborators. Having said that, DC has a special and unique status in the country, it is the place that all of the nation’s state capitols pivot around. I want it having more self rule, but that can stop short of it becoming a state.

Hekate

(91,003 posts)
4. Do you not know that Schumer can't do this by himself? Schumer knows.
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 07:42 PM
Sep 2020

I wonder if what he’s saying is that the territory’s residents don’t just do a “one and done” vote on statehood, but periodically have to raise it and ratify it again.

Silent3

(15,427 posts)
7. Until I checked just now, I wrongly thought it was almost as hard as passing an amendment...
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 07:53 PM
Sep 2020

...to the Constitution to add a new state, imagining that more than a majority of other states had to sign on to letting a new state into the union.

Wrong!

Apparently, it's much easier. It simply has to be approved by Congress after the new states-to-be take some preliminary steps, like drafting a state constitution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admission_to_the_Union

Wow! Better representation for Democrats in the House and the Senate could happen fairly quickly then, if DC and Puerto Rico are interested.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. That is what I thought that I remembered. The House and Senate vote a state in,
Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:04 PM
Sep 2020

there is no super-majority of states ratifying a constitutional amendment.

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