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Anyone with less than a month or two on DU I am pretty much putting on ignore until at least after the election. Some of the comments make me wonder about their motives.
marble falls
(57,289 posts)luv2fly
(2,475 posts)I don't post so much. Life...
better
(884 posts)For users with a small number of posts, first take a look at the posts they have made, to come to an informed conclusion about them. Many, like myself, tend to listen a great deal more than they talk, and that can, in fact, be a very good and appropriate thing.
Case in point, I've got fewer than 700 posts, obviously, but I've been here for 7 years.
The underlying principle I'm advocating here is simply that we endeavor to come to adequately informed conclusions about each individual, exactly the same as we all wish all Americans would about individual issues. We should lead by example.
To the extent to which we can stomach it.
And of course I fully understand and appreciate how justifiably depleted our tolerance may be.
But that does strike me as at least the appropriate ideal.
marble falls
(57,289 posts)better
(884 posts)luv2fly
(2,475 posts)And I don't automatically ignore the newer folks (recognizing I am less than a year on DU myself), and indeed I do look at what they may have previously posted. But for now, if someone's post "feels" off, I err towards ignoring. There is plenty more to read.
better
(884 posts)I suppose I'm just perhaps hyper-vigilant about advocating both receptiveness and scepticism when I see what appears to be only one being advocated.
I'm a reformed Republican (of almost 20 years now) myself, and I experienced more than my own fair share of outright dismissal rooted in scepticism unmoderated by receptiveness in the early years of my own realignment (or more accurately, my awakening to the fact that my previous party affiliation was actually completely at odds with my lifelong alignment), so I am perhaps more keenly attuned to both the risks of hasty conclusions and the benefits of avoiding them to make a proper determination.
And I want as many people as possible brought truly into the fold.
WhiteTara
(29,723 posts)welcome to DU
better
(884 posts)First, ask a well-crafted question, in an effort to determine whether they are acting in bad faith or are merely as yet still inadequately informed. There may be some merit to remembering that we are almost certain to encounter a fair number of people who have only just begun to remove themselves from the bubbles in which they've been living, and still need some help understanding the proper context in which to assess things.
By all means, ignore and/or report those users you suspect of having bad motives, but it may serve us all well to invest some effort into making as accurate a determination as feasible. We do run the risk of alienating a great many people who are tentatively moving toward being our genuine allies by being too quick to judge.
Silver1
(721 posts)When I first joined, I made a comment about a progressive ad I agreed with, but which I thought was inappropriate for children to see. I was attacked so severely, I assume because I was new and "untrustworthy", and was finally accused of being a Putin troll.
It was all so ridiculous. I responded with a huff, and announced I was leaving this board if this is what it's members were like. I did leave for a few days, but I really missed the board! I had been reading DU for several years before I finally joined, and it had become a part of my daily "culture". So I came back. There are many great people posting here, and I so appreciate their helping me think through current events. There are many good and caring people here also. So now, as far as any extremists, I ignore them.
I do confess though, after that humiliating experience I avoid posting much at all.
better
(884 posts)And boiled down to its essence, it is essentially the challenge of accurately gauging the appropriate response, even when complicated by conscious and/or subconscious bias, and/or the intersection with potentially legitimate and valid grievance.
It's a problem that spans nearly every aspect of our culture, from differentiating programmed and subconscious racial bias that impacts one's decision-making but of which they may not even be aware from actual bonafide malicious racism, to cops determining when the use of deadly force is and is not actually justified (in those cases where racial anamice is genuinely not present, which I am in NO way suggesting is not a serious and widespread problem in its own right), to differentiating between Trump's two buckets of supporters.
And I think, honestly, that we should all take pause from the mere fact that although it was horribly and effectively used against Secretary Clinton, the whole point she was making in the "deplorables" section of that speech was that NUANCES MATTER.
That is why she DID bother to identify the existence of that OTHER bucket, and acknowledge the fundamental decency (albeit untempered by adequate recognition and judgment OF the most negative nuances of Trump's message) of the people in it.
For any who may have forgotten, or never known, I encourage you to go back and read the transcript carefully, because she was in fact encouraging us, on THIS side, to exercise exactly this kind of careful, objective scrutiny, and properly differentiate dedicated foe from misinformed or under-informed fellow decent American.