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Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:30 PM Oct 2020

If Pence gets sick& can't take over if need be, Nancy has to resign speaker to take over POTUS.

Just saying...sure are a lot of potential moving pieces in this chess game.
Remember that West Wing episode when Bartlett's daughter was kidnapped and there was no VP, so speaker of the house had to take over?

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If Pence gets sick& can't take over if need be, Nancy has to resign speaker to take over POTUS. (Original Post) Amaryllis Oct 2020 OP
If I remember correctly she has to resign a rep og California. You can only hold progressive nobody Oct 2020 #1
Right. Which also means no more speaker position. Amaryllis Oct 2020 #3
Speaker Pelosi would not hold the office (position) of the presidency itself. lapucelle Oct 2020 #11
Stop trying to cheer me up! 634-5789 Oct 2020 #2
And then she could pull the nomination of Handmaid's Tale WonderGrunion Oct 2020 #4
Prior to the election, kurtcagle Oct 2020 #5
Is vice presidential inability considered a vice presidential vacancy under the 25th amendment? lapucelle Oct 2020 #6
There is not an "acting" President. You either are or you aren't. Lochloosa Oct 2020 #12
Pence would be Acting President. There is an Acting President provision in the constitution. lapucelle Oct 2020 #14
I stand corrected. Lochloosa Oct 2020 #18
Magnanimous AND a Garcia fan......that's the whole package. lapucelle Oct 2020 #20
Lol. It does get confusing Lochloosa Oct 2020 #21
Why are we discussing these bizarre scenarios? LisaL Oct 2020 #7
Well republicans did promise that they would force Nancy out of the Speakership mercuryblues Oct 2020 #8
To become President she would have to resign. Period. Lochloosa Oct 2020 #13
Correct. IOW she will resign her speakership, as they promised. mercuryblues Oct 2020 #19
why would it matter if she resigns from Speaker? beachbumbob Oct 2020 #9
Not a question or concern. Just thinking about the many moving pieces here and it Amaryllis Oct 2020 #17
The democratic house caucus would elect a new leader. beachbumbob Oct 2020 #22
Your headline may not be accurate. lapucelle Oct 2020 #10
If Nancy becomes president, I'll be ecstatic. Jim__ Oct 2020 #15
Joe Biden could be appointed Speaker of the House now Always Randy Oct 2020 #16

WonderGrunion

(2,995 posts)
4. And then she could pull the nomination of Handmaid's Tale
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:36 PM
Oct 2020

It would be ironic if Amy Coney Barrett sunk her own nomination on a microscopic scale.

kurtcagle

(1,604 posts)
5. Prior to the election,
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:40 PM
Oct 2020

Pence would become president. There's roughly four weeks between now and the election, so the likelihood of him getting sick (or worse dying) is very low. If it should, then yes, Nancy would have to resign as Speaker of the House to become the president, something which I suspect she would have no problem with - she is old enough that it would be a nice retirement present. If Biden wins, it's almost certain that she would work closely with Biden during the transition, and maybe even give a nice jumpstart to what would likely be a very tumultuous transition otherwise.

lapucelle

(18,351 posts)
6. Is vice presidential inability considered a vice presidential vacancy under the 25th amendment?
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:44 PM
Oct 2020

Additionally, is it necessary for an acting president (as opposed to a president who succeeded to the actual office) to resign from Congress?

Lochloosa

(16,070 posts)
12. There is not an "acting" President. You either are or you aren't.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:10 PM
Oct 2020

If the president can't fulfill the duties, pence is president. If he can't fulfill the duties, Nancy is president. Lines of succession. There is not an acting President in the constitution.

lapucelle

(18,351 posts)
14. Pence would be Acting President. There is an Acting President provision in the constitution.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:13 PM
Oct 2020

It's in the 25th amendment.

Amendment XXV
Section 3
Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.


It is only when the president dies or is removed from office that that the Vice President becomes President.

Amendment XXV
Section 1
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amendment-xxv
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxv

lapucelle

(18,351 posts)
20. Magnanimous AND a Garcia fan......that's the whole package.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:34 PM
Oct 2020

I only just read the actual amendment myself today.

I was wondering why neither Bush nor Cheney had to resign the vice presidency when they temporarily took over for an incapacitated president.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
7. Why are we discussing these bizarre scenarios?
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:45 PM
Oct 2020

Pence is likely to have only mild symptoms even if he were to get covid.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
17. Not a question or concern. Just thinking about the many moving pieces here and it
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:21 PM
Oct 2020

will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

lapucelle

(18,351 posts)
10. Your headline may not be accurate.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:01 PM
Oct 2020

The Speaker would be assuming the powers and the duties of the presidency, not the office itself.

Jim__

(14,083 posts)
15. If Nancy becomes president, I'll be ecstatic.
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:15 PM
Oct 2020

She'll have much more power than she has now. Moscow Mitch would be totally impotent.

Always Randy

(1,060 posts)
16. Joe Biden could be appointed Speaker of the House now
Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:16 PM
Oct 2020

Nancy could step down temporally---the House appoints Biden Speaker---he assumes the Presidency-appoints Harris as VP--Nancy gets reelected to Speaker ---EZPZ-------and this is what might happen ---if the GOP Senate is sick ----maybe AOC could be appointed to SCOTUS

The Constitution does not require the speaker to be an incumbent member of the House of Representatives, although every speaker thus far has been.[4] The speaker is second in the United States presidential line of succession, after the vice president and ahead of the president pro tempore of the Senate.[2]

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