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CTyankee

(63,860 posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:10 PM Oct 2020

In all of my 81 years living in this country, I have never felt so unsure and just plain scared

about how my country is in the hands of a crazy person and his enablers. Even Nixon had those Republican senators who came to him in the White House to tell him the gig was up and he had to go.

Where are the people who will tell Trump?

Or have they told him and he rebuffed them?

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In all of my 81 years living in this country, I have never felt so unsure and just plain scared (Original Post) CTyankee Oct 2020 OP
take heart, CTyankee Skittles Oct 2020 #1
I'm with you, my dear. Squinch Oct 2020 #2
We're all in this together, and we are going to win this and win our country back! DonaldsRump Oct 2020 #3
The only people who aren't scared are the people who aren't paying attention. - n/t Jim__ Oct 2020 #4
So true. triron Oct 2020 #27
Yep. It's bad. I am not going to tell you that you shouldn't be scared. Laelth Oct 2020 #5
Very well said. dixiechiken1 Oct 2020 #13
Thank you. Laelth Oct 2020 #17
Now that was an uplifting post if I've ever read one! llmart Oct 2020 #19
Absolutely dianaredwing Oct 2020 #20
Its always darkest before dawn. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2020 #6
Well Timewas Oct 2020 #7
If I had the means I would really like to live in Italy for a while but the EU won't have us! CTyankee Oct 2020 #15
I lived in Italy for 8 years. They also have a lot of vitriiolic fascists. fierywoman Oct 2020 #16
one should always trust one's instincts dianaredwing Oct 2020 #21
Hell Timewas Oct 2020 #22
I know ... Useless in FL Oct 2020 #8
I completely understand. It's unspeakable. Hekate Oct 2020 #9
Things were too good and we forgot the basics StClone Oct 2020 #10
It's always darkest before the dawn Catcar Oct 2020 #11
that's what Pete thought . . . OneBlueSky Oct 2020 #26
I am scared too, but this country will survive.. Stuart G Oct 2020 #12
It keeps me up nights. I have a very small group of friends and family-friendly Arkansas Granny Oct 2020 #14
there is one consolation, one glimmer of hope Chili Oct 2020 #18
You are not alone CT. Let us continue to march ahead and hope and vote. c-rational Oct 2020 #23
They are risking their lives and the lives of their families to show subservience to Trump. Kablooie Oct 2020 #24
they didn't tell him. They don't have spines. jimlup Oct 2020 #25
My personal silver lining is that I won't live much longer. BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #28
Seek solace with FDR Yavin4 Oct 2020 #29
Courage mon brave ou ma belle, Mme. Defarge Oct 2020 #30
I'm hearing you... Ohioboy Oct 2020 #31
I'm Jewish and LGBTQ Marius25 Oct 2020 #32
Got my absentee ballot today. BarbD Oct 2020 #33
I'm also 81 and scared young_at_heart Oct 2020 #34
Citizens United DallasNE Oct 2020 #35
Total Agreement marieo1 Oct 2020 #36

Skittles

(153,076 posts)
1. take heart, CTyankee
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:13 PM
Oct 2020

I still believe America is stronger than Donald Fucking Trump but if there was any justice, he and the entire GOP would be stamped out along with that virus.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
3. We're all in this together, and we are going to win this and win our country back!
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:15 PM
Oct 2020

Peace and keep the faith. We're nearly there.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
5. Yep. It's bad. I am not going to tell you that you shouldn't be scared.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:24 PM
Oct 2020

I have never seen anything like this, and fear of the unknown is quite natural.

That said, 2021 could be one of the most liberal years in American politics (given the way things look now). Eliminate the filibuster, expand the SCOTUS, and we’re in business. It’s always darkest before the dawn.

Strength and honor. Love and light.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
17. Thank you.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:55 PM
Oct 2020

All my instincts say we’re looking at a Biden/Harris landslide and liberal government in 2021. It will be a challenge to eliminate the filibuster, but it can be done if President Biden and Vice President Harris commit to it and TWIST all the necessary arms to make it happen—LBJ-style. Expanding the SCOTUS is a little tougher, but it can be done because it makes sense—the SCOTUS has too few judges to deal with its current caseload, and it would de-politicize the Court if it were expanded. A vacancy on a 21-member Court would not create the kind of political crisis that we now see when the Court has a single vacancy.

Give me those two things and the United States will soon make a huge, liberal leap toward achieving its declared destiny ... a land of freedom with liberty and justice FOR ALL (including economic justice).



-Laelth

llmart

(15,524 posts)
19. Now that was an uplifting post if I've ever read one!
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 10:22 PM
Oct 2020

And on that note, I'm turning off the computer and going to bed. There's been way too much chaos and bad news today and I want your post to be the last one I read.

Timewas

(2,189 posts)
7. Well
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:29 PM
Oct 2020

I am only a couple years behind you there and I agree, this is the most frightened I have been in my 80 years...the part that scares me the most is I am too old to get out now..If it goes worse I am stuck now

CTyankee

(63,860 posts)
15. If I had the means I would really like to live in Italy for a while but the EU won't have us!
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:46 PM
Oct 2020

My mother, who was a veteran traveler well into her 80s would go anywhere and wanted to pack in as much travel as she could. She worked in the airline business and could get passes through an exchange system with her airline and others. She would be LIVID right now that she couldn't just up and go to Europe. She took me when I was 16 and didn't want to go but she dragged my lazy butt over there and I was glad she did!

But with Trump we're dealing with a monster and his capabilities for massive destruction is truly frightening. I'm paying attention and don't want to. I had to give up drinking wine because it was making me sick so I don't even have that bit of relaxation...

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
21. one should always trust one's instincts
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 10:30 PM
Oct 2020

I retired and threatened to expat early in the Trump debacle. I didn't and now no one will have me. What a joke.

Timewas

(2,189 posts)
22. Hell
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 10:32 PM
Oct 2020

I have spent a lot of time traveling around the country here. I have some places I would like to go back to and some I haven't been to yet. Just don't really feel safe out on the road right now

StClone

(11,681 posts)
10. Things were too good and we forgot the basics
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:35 PM
Oct 2020

-Stock Market is not reality
-Vote! Otherwise what's happening now is what happens.
-Free Press does not mean a dis-informing, lying, propaganda, manipulating-it means verity, unbiased and sourced (if possible).
-Good Government does protect use from abuses by the powerful: who actively seek to use every asset available and extract wealth and externalize costs, losses, pollution, labor abuses and more. Big Government is needed to protect against big Corporations abuse.

OneBlueSky

(18,536 posts)
26. that's what Pete thought . . .
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 10:50 PM
Oct 2020

you know it's darkest before the dawn
but this thought keeps me movin' on
through all this world of joy and sorrow
we still can have singing tomorrows

Quite Early Morning - Pete Seeger

Questioner: So Pete, are you optimistic about the future?
Pete: Not really . . . but I'm hopeful . . .

Arkansas Granny

(31,500 posts)
14. It keeps me up nights. I have a very small group of friends and family-friendly
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:45 PM
Oct 2020

to voice my concerns. We text and telephone a lot.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
18. there is one consolation, one glimmer of hope
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 10:11 PM
Oct 2020

The whole country knows it now, what kind of fascist psychopath he is - except for his maniacal followers, who will slither back into the sewer where they came from. People can't stand him, they shut their ears to him, no longer believe his bullsh*t. Think of how stupid he is... suburban "housewives?" It's their parents dying of COVID. It's their children who can't go back to school. It's their teens and college kids marching in the streets and being tear gassed. It's their jobs furloughed or lost. Not to mention the rest of us, but he thought only they counted. Imbecile. His lunatic ass is going to be voted out of office. OUT.

Twenty-six days. Twenty-six days!

Kablooie

(18,600 posts)
24. They are risking their lives and the lives of their families to show subservience to Trump.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 10:42 PM
Oct 2020

By disregarding simple health recommendations so no, no one has told him.

They have all been truly brainwashed by the Trump cult. I don't know why but they have.
Covid may become Trump's version of Jim Jone's Kool aid.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
25. they didn't tell him. They don't have spines.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 10:49 PM
Oct 2020

the current republican party has no one with a soul. They can't act morally. It all hinges on November 3rd.

BigmanPigman

(51,529 posts)
28. My personal silver lining is that I won't live much longer.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 11:07 PM
Oct 2020

I found that out in Aug 2016. So I had that to deal with and I also had been saying for 1 year that tRump would win (I knew Americans are stupid, gullible and have the memory of a rock when it comes to politics). After the fucking moron won I said something I never said before in my life. "I don't feel safe anymore". I don't mind dying (really) especially now that my little dog and my dad died too. I am almost relieved that I won't have to live in a country that has such stupid, hate filled people voting for hateful idiots and greedy, treasonous enablers in all levels of our govt.

But...as long as I can do something to stop them I will. I will make phone calls to all GOP senators again and again, try to go to another protest, the Oct 17 Womens March over the new SCOTUS pick, and encourage others to VOTE! As a final activist statement I will go to DC (if I physically and financially can) if the fucking moron steals the election and I will not leave until he is dragged out of the W House. I will fight since I do love my country and am patriotic. Then I can die with pride and self respect.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
32. I'm Jewish and LGBTQ
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 11:33 PM
Oct 2020

so this country is terrifying for me these days. I've been actively looking for other places to move to, but Israel is the only country I qualify for. I have no way to get to Canada or Europe.

BarbD

(1,192 posts)
33. Got my absentee ballot today.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 11:34 PM
Oct 2020

Because I'm 82 and want to make sure I get this right, I'm going to slowly and carefully read the instructions. Fill it out and drive over to Town Hall where I will put it in the drop box.

I'm too angry and determined to allow the cloud of fear hovering over me to overwhelm me. We shall overcome.

I'm also going to buy the biggest chocolate bar I can find to celebrate.

young_at_heart

(3,763 posts)
34. I'm also 81 and scared
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 11:57 PM
Oct 2020

I think back to my first time to vote......John Kennedy. All the years since then and never once had the fear I have now. And we thought Nixon was the worst of the worst....little did we know!

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
35. Citizens United
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 12:11 AM
Oct 2020

In politics money is everything these days. Politicians are beholden to superpacs and the President, with an assist from the Senate leader, pulls the strings on who get how much money. Rock the boat and not only do you not get any money but you will get a well financed primary challenger. Money has completely corrupted the process. Oh, I'm your junior by 1 year.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
36. Total Agreement
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 12:18 AM
Oct 2020

I'm with you CT yankee. I live in Minnesota and I am totally freaked out about what is going on. I feel so overwhelmed by all of it. It's enough to have to deal with Covid-19 but there is daily trauma from DJT and his co-horts...........Sad. We will get through this, tho.

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