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Suburban Warrior

(405 posts)
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 08:12 AM Oct 2020

Commentary: I won't work in Attorney General William Barr's Justice Department any longer

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/commentary/story/2020-10-14/william-barr-department-of-justice-doj

By PHILLIP HALPERN
OCT. 14, 20205:46 PM

After 36 years, I’m fleeing what was the U.S. Department of Justice — where I proudly served 19 different attorneys general and six different presidents. For the last three-plus decades, I have respected our leadership regardless of whether we were led by a Republican or a Democrat. I always believed the department’s past leaders were dedicated to the rule of law and the guiding principle that justice is blind. That is a bygone era, but it should not be forgotten.

Maybe I should’ve seen this coming, but like many of my colleagues, I fervently hoped that Attorney General William Barr’s preemptive misrepresentation of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report was an honest mistake or a solitary misstep — rather than a deliberate attempt to conceal potential presidential misconduct. After all, Barr has never actually investigated, charged or tried a case. He’s a well-trained bureaucrat but has no actual experience as a prosecutor.

Unfortunately, over the last year, Barr’s resentment toward rule-of-law prosecutors became increasingly difficult to ignore, as did his slavish obedience to Donald Trump’s will in his selective meddling with the criminal justice system in the Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn and Roger Stone cases. In each of these cases, Barr overruled career prosecutors in order to assist the president’s associates and/or friends, who potentially harbor incriminating information. This career bureaucrat seems determined to turn our democracy into an autocracy.

There is no other honest explanation for Barr’s parroting of the president’s wild and unsupported conspiracy theories regarding mail-in ballots (which have been contradicted by the president’s handpicked FBI director) and his support for the president’s sacking of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, whose office used the thinnest of veils to postpone charging the president in a criminal investigation along with Michael Cohen (who pled guilty and directly implicated the president). It took federal Judge Alvin Hellerstein to stop Barr’s unprecedented “retaliatory” demands to silence the president’s former lawyer as a condition for staying out of jail.
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Commentary: I won't work in Attorney General William Barr's Justice Department any longer (Original Post) Suburban Warrior Oct 2020 OP
A couple of his cases: Mike 03 Oct 2020 #1
Taking a sledgehammer to the concepts of Rule of Law... magicarpet Oct 2020 #2
After 36 years, I hope his retirement pay is guaranteed. JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #3
Are you suggesting that Donald is a vindictive criminal pig... BKDem Oct 2020 #10
Moi? Mais non! nt JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #23
The new Biden administration needs to do a complete overhaul at DoJ FakeNoose Oct 2020 #4
We need to pressure the new administration to pursue justice for these thugs. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #6
Yup. En masse. They won't if we don't. KPN Oct 2020 #14
Absolutely agree. Biden may be too nice here. We need to prosecute crimes committed. Lonestarblue Oct 2020 #15
It is extremely important that people get caught and suffer (appropriate) consequences. TryLogic Oct 2020 #21
I really hope they learned their lesson from the last time "moving forward" was the plan LiberalLovinLug Oct 2020 #25
agree that the DOJ needs to be put back on stable ground stopdiggin Oct 2020 #26
He's involved in dRumpf's shenanigan with rudy and pompouso in Ukraine... Lock him up. Oct 2020 #37
I had no idea "Barr has never actually investigated, charged or tried a case." Native Oct 2020 #5
You are not alone PatSeg Oct 2020 #8
He's a fixer. Hugin Oct 2020 #11
Unqualified superpatriotman Oct 2020 #12
Amazing. That makes him a Trump kind of guy. TryLogic Oct 2020 #22
K&R. calimary Oct 2020 #7
People who work as Pumpkin-spice Pol Pot's private law firms don't seem to fare well... Hugin Oct 2020 #9
K & R IllinoisBirdWatcher Oct 2020 #13
Looks like Mr. Halpern just confirmed ScratchCat Oct 2020 #16
I believe Barr has acted criminally. PatrickforO Oct 2020 #17
Most elected Dems believe the American people don't want to go through long trials. That's why napi21 Oct 2020 #36
In normal times, I'd agree with you - go with the flow and not make waves. PatrickforO Oct 2020 #39
Biden has his work cut out for him. Statistical Oct 2020 #18
I want to believe that all these corrupt characters will get their deserved punishment Poiuyt Oct 2020 #19
i would also like to believe it. but ive watched a lifetime of political crimes go unpunished. bullimiami Oct 2020 #24
Most telling sentence for me in the article was....... KS Toronado Oct 2020 #20
NOT counting all of the other "charges" and MyOwnPeace Oct 2020 #29
K&R smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #27
Barr won't work much longer in the Justice Department either (nt) mnmoderatedem Oct 2020 #28
Hope they charge him with corruption for interfering for the Con onetexan Oct 2020 #38
"Ain't going to work for AG Barr no more!" ... marble falls Oct 2020 #30
You beat me to it! n/t DFW Oct 2020 #31
Word on the street was you were keying in youtube, I had to really put the move on it! marble falls Oct 2020 #32
Ha1 Not this time I still work for a living DFW Oct 2020 #33
K&R Blue Owl Oct 2020 #34
Phil Halpern on with Lawrence NOW! Suburban Warrior Oct 2020 #35

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
1. A couple of his cases:
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 08:17 AM
Oct 2020
Four Plead Guilty In Million Dollar Bank Bribery Case
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/four-plead-guilty-million-dollar-bank-bribery-case

Campaign Aide Admits To Launching False Federal Investigation Aimed At Discrediting Congressional Candidate
Carl DeMaio’s Former Campaign Policy Director Pleads Guilty To Obstructing Justice And Lying To The Federal Bureau Of Investigation


https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/campaign-aide-admits-launching-false-federal-investigation-aimed-discrediting

Just two random cases that come up when you search his name and "DOJ".

magicarpet

(18,519 posts)
2. Taking a sledgehammer to the concepts of Rule of Law...
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 08:21 AM
Oct 2020

... while tossing our Democracy in the toilet.

The legacy of trDump/barr justice.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,683 posts)
3. After 36 years, I hope his retirement pay is guaranteed.
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 09:28 AM
Oct 2020

Trump loves to remove people just before they're eligible for retirement.

BKDem

(1,733 posts)
10. Are you suggesting that Donald is a vindictive criminal pig...
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 09:53 AM
Oct 2020

...instead of a truth-loving sweetheart and fine ballroom dancer?

FakeNoose

(41,647 posts)
4. The new Biden administration needs to do a complete overhaul at DoJ
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 09:33 AM
Oct 2020

I hope it's near the top of his very long list.

Bill Barr belongs in prison, but I doubt they'll prosecute him. They'll just get rid of him as soon as possible. That's how these Repukes just keep getting bolder - nobody ever faces the consequences of their illegal actions.




lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. We need to pressure the new administration to pursue justice for these thugs.
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 09:43 AM
Oct 2020

Each time they get away with it, they become more dangerous. If we survive this round, and they get off, the next round will be fatal.

TryLogic

(2,291 posts)
21. It is extremely important that people get caught and suffer (appropriate) consequences.
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 12:23 PM
Oct 2020

Otherwise they become or remain career criminals and inspire others to be the same.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
25. I really hope they learned their lesson from the last time "moving forward" was the plan
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 03:53 PM
Oct 2020

War crimes, illegal spying on Americans, Wall Street execs stealing money, all was let go in the pursuit of some fantasy of a kubaya House and Senate if a new Democratic President just looked the other way on their crimes.

I think the temptation, that Obama caved to, of ignoring crimes of the GOP, is so great though. It would dominate Biden's first term, anger and mobilize the right. It would curtail a lot of good policies they could be working on passing. But it is simply imperative this time. Along with a concerted effort to inform the public as to WHY they are pursuing justice against the past administration. And just hope enough understand by 2024, by what is revealed in those investigations, to re-elect Democrats again.

stopdiggin

(15,464 posts)
26. agree that the DOJ needs to be put back on stable ground
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 04:10 PM
Oct 2020

whether that requires prosecutions of former actors in Justice -- I think is a rather more problematic. If clear violations of law can be established for Barr (and others) that's one thing. But -- rank political partisanship (while clearly having no place in the department) belongs in a different category. My most important priority in 2021 is reassuring the people that work (by and large with integrity) at DOJ -- that they no longer work and reside in a banana republic. Whether prosecutions would serve that goal is the larger question.
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(for the record: I am not trying to predict what Joe Biden will do in advance. I really have no idea. But I do think that his character and political instincts might be a good thing for the country at this particular point in our history. IMO he was absolutely the right choice for 2021 -- and I'm more than willing to push back against elements that think he needs "backbone" and a push get him moving in the right -- i.e., 'their' -- direction.)

Lock him up.

(9,791 posts)
37. He's involved in dRumpf's shenanigan with rudy and pompouso in Ukraine...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 12:50 AM
Oct 2020
remember? But maybe he will deny even knowing or recall anything so...

Native

(7,359 posts)
5. I had no idea "Barr has never actually investigated, charged or tried a case."
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 09:38 AM
Oct 2020

How did I miss this?

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
11. He's a fixer.
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 09:54 AM
Oct 2020

Fixers are managers. Managers don't do any actual work, because, that may lead to accountability.

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
9. People who work as Pumpkin-spice Pol Pot's private law firms don't seem to fare well...
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 09:52 AM
Oct 2020

and since that's what the former DoJ has become, it would be wise to find the egress.

That stench never goes away even if you avoid the orange attire such as Michael Cohen found himself in.

ScratchCat

(2,742 posts)
16. Looks like Mr. Halpern just confirmed
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:22 AM
Oct 2020

What I and others speculated:

and his support for the president’s sacking of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, whose office used the thinnest of veils to postpone charging the president in a criminal investigation along with Michael Cohen (who pled guilty and directly implicated the president).

Postpone, eh? Like there is a sealed indictment, right? Folks, I have been telling anyone who will listen for a year - there was no reason to list Donald Trump as "Individual 1" on Michael Cohen's charging documents unless Donald Trump was a)the target of a criminal investigation or b)Is also being charged in a separate filing. A and B are one in the same.

Dollars to Donuts: There is a sealed indictment, Barr told him and that's why he is insisting Barr bring charges against people from the Obama Administration and why they tried so hard to get a jury to indict Andy McCabe.

*Note: Bill Barr can't do anything about a sealed indictment and they knew that was their "trump card" regardless of who Donald installed as AG.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
17. I believe Barr has acted criminally.
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:28 AM
Oct 2020

I'm thinking we need to see some trials after this Trump nightmare is over.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
36. Most elected Dems believe the American people don't want to go through long trials. That's why
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 11:06 PM
Oct 2020

there've not been any prosecutions of past Pub crimes. I would be glad to see them fried, but I'm only one person. Maybe te others are right.

PatrickforO

(15,426 posts)
39. In normal times, I'd agree with you - go with the flow and not make waves.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 03:27 AM
Oct 2020

But these people are guilty of treason, of crimes against humanity.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
18. Biden has his work cut out for him.
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:30 AM
Oct 2020

He is going to near to tear the entire executive branch down to the foundation, spray for vermin, and rebuild it.

Poiuyt

(18,272 posts)
19. I want to believe that all these corrupt characters will get their deserved punishment
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 10:48 AM
Oct 2020

I want to believe it, but I just can't.

bullimiami

(14,075 posts)
24. i would also like to believe it. but ive watched a lifetime of political crimes go unpunished.
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 02:47 PM
Oct 2020

and these crooks have come back to commit more crimes again and again.


KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
20. Most telling sentence for me in the article was.......
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 11:51 AM
Oct 2020

"-rather than a deliberate attempt to conceal potential presidential misconduct" We have yet to see an unredacted
Mueller report, it must be full of information donnie needs to keep secret.

MyOwnPeace

(17,564 posts)
29. NOT counting all of the other "charges" and
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 05:55 PM
Oct 2020

shady doings, what happened with the Mueller Report NEEDS to be investigated.
WE NEED full disclosure - then action following the complete report and its findings.

LOCK THEM UP!
LOCK THEM UP!
LOCK THEM UP!
LOCK THEM UP!
LOCK THEM UP!
LOCK THEM UP!
LOCK THEM UP!
LOCK THEM UP!

marble falls

(71,947 posts)
32. Word on the street was you were keying in youtube, I had to really put the move on it!
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 06:33 PM
Oct 2020

DFW

(60,190 posts)
33. Ha1 Not this time I still work for a living
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 06:40 PM
Oct 2020

I have been in Sprout City and Paris the last few days.

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