***IBD/TIPP Poll national Poll of LVs*** Biden +5 (4 way) and +4 (2 way)

[Johnny2X2X]

This is a good poll, but for some reason they've been an outlier, this was Biden plus 2 and plus 3 yesterday. A/B rated pollster, but their sampling has been called to task as being off.

Harris, Rasmussen, and IBD/TIPP are 3 outliers that pulled the polling average down to +9.9 for Joe. Everything else seems to be +9-13 for Biden.

[honest.abe]

1. They have been an outlier for most of the campaign.

At least their numbers are heading in the right direction now.

[lagomorph777]

2. They changed their methodology after 538 rated them. Not a valid poll anymore.

[Johnny2X2X]

3. Where did you see this

Not disputing you at all, just would like to read how 538 ranked them and why and how they changed their methods.

The thing with polling is that you can do your best to pick a sample and decide on methods, but be wrong and then not want to change anything because then you lose all of your comparison data. Polls have marketability in that people and news services like to track them over time. If they are constantly adjusting, no one is going to use them. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

The IBD/TIPP people might be completely on the up and up and realize they've got a bad way of sampling, but they aren't going to change it now.

[lagomorph777]

4. Honestly, I'm just repeating other DU posters. Many at DU say that; IBD/TIPP is always an outlier.

When I search (DuckDuckGo) for "ibd/tipp changed method" I get tons of articles that all seem to be IBD/TIPP press releases touting how strong Trump is, or how weak Biden is, or how voters are suddenly happy about the economy. They never issue press releases when the opposite happens. I think they're a GOP shill.

[Happy Hoosier]

5. They got a bad sample in there I think....

It's rolling out now, so this will tick up.

Rasmussen is junk, of course, but enough of a data point to include (with caveats). Harris I don't know anything about.

[tormadjax]

6. To coin a phrase: "I'm concerned"

I am.

[uponit7771]

7. +5 in a 4 way is closer to Obama 08 cause Trump voters are jumping ship. Its the +4 in a two

... way that looks funny compared to other polling.

We'll see

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. Well, even this outlier shows things moving in Biden's direction n/t

[lagomorph777]

9. What credible pollster would be running 4-way polls now?

This is one more way they are trying to obfuscate the truth: their guy is losing. BIGLY.