General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsArlo Guthrie Announced His Retirement
Its been a great 50+ years of being a working entertainer, but I reached the difficult decision that touring and stage shows are no longer possible. I've cancelled the upcoming shows, and am not accepting offers for new ones. Thats the short version. For the longer version continue reading
As a folksinger, I never really thought much about getting older. It seemed to me that I could just continue year after year, decade after decade, singing and playing as I had done for most of my life. As the years went by, it got more difficult to keep touring, but I did it, mostly because Id been doing it my entire life. It was the life I knew and loved.
In 2016 on April 1st, April Fools Day, I got really dizzy in the parking lot of the hotel, and started seeing as though I were looking through a kaleidoscope. That evening the show went on as though nothing had happened. I had no idea Id just encountered a mini stroke until weeks later, when I was told about it. It didnt appear to affect my performance, or my state of being. I continued touring for the next 4 years.
Then, on Thanksgiving Day 2019 (of all freaking days) it happened again. This time I was on my way to The Church / The Guthrie Center to help out with our annual Thanksgiving Dinner that we hold every year. I had pulled over to fuel up and realized I couldnt continue to drive safely, as everything was spinning around, sort of like the old days, but without the help of illegal substances. I was taken to the hospital, and was under evaluation, when I broke out. I had an important gig at Carnegie Hall in New York - The end of an annual series Id been doing for decades and it was Sold Out. I had to be there. It was imperative.
The next morning I left the hospital, took the family and headed for New York. And what a show it was! We wrapped up 50 years with a terrific evening with the entire family on stage. I really enjoyed it.
The following day I flew to my home in Sebastian, FL just as I had done for years, this time with the history of Carnegie Hall behind me. My girlfriend, Marti picked me up at the airport, and we settled into the routine of being on the river I loved. Two nights after arriving home, I awoke in the morning and was lurching from sIde to side. I knew something was wrong, and went to keep a doctors appointment wed previously set up. The doc said You need to go to the hospital - Now.
So, Marti took me to the hospital nearby in Vero Beach. They kept me there for 3 days, running tests of all kinds, and essentially informed me that Id suffered a stroke. This time was more serious, as Id lost some ability to walk, and I wondered if if would be able to play music. I spent about a week in a rehab center to re-learn the basics, like walking. I went home after that, and began a regimen of playing guitar, walking All the things I would need to continue touring and performing. During the entire time, Marti kept the family and close friends advised as to my progress, and took really great care of me. I needed all the help I could get. And she was there to see it done right.
By the the time our first shows began in 2020, I was at about at 80% and felt like I was improving. Then the pandemic hit. All the shows we had planned for 2020 were at first, postponed, then rescheduled and finally cancelled. My hopes for a gradual recovery onstage came to an abrupt end.
Meanwhile, Id decided back in 2018 to move from the home in Florida. And just as Id returned from our last gig in Tennessee, a buyer appeared, and we had a deal on the table to sell The CrabHouse. I wasnt in any shape to go through the intricacies of selling a guitar pick, let alone a home with 30 years of stuff wed collected. Marti ended up doing it all. She finalized the deal, and dealt with the stuff that either had to be sold, moved or thrown out. It was quite a lot. But, through garage sales, online markets, movers and friends, shed pretty much emptied the CrabHouse of everything, and we moved into her place about a mile away.
We were there for a few weeks, before it was safe enough to return to The Farm in Massachusetts. That was in June 2020. Since then weve been holed up at The Farm trying to keep out of harms way, and also trying to provide some online entertainment for our friends who were, and continue to be, holed up wherever they are. My band and crew arranged a few short gigs that were filmed at The Church, but when I saw the play-back in the editing room I realized that it was not up to the standards I expected of myself, let alone the expectations that our friends and fans had come to enjoy.
A folksingers shelf life may be a lot longer than a dancer or an athlete, but at some point, unless youre incredibly fortunate or just plain whacko (either one or both) its time to hang up the Gone Fishing sign. Going from town to town and doing stage shows, remaining on the road is no longer an option.
I dont remember answering the question on the other side of that piece of paper when I was asked Kid! Have you rehabilitated yourself? But, the short answer is now clearly, No! In fact, I hope to be a thorn in the side of a new administration pretty soon. Tom Paine once wrote To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead . In other words, you cannot and should not argue with people who dont care, or hold the caring of others in contempt. A healthy suspicion of authority, left, right or center has been the hallmark of my career since the beginning, and I will continue to poke fun at cultural, political, or personal absurdities as I see it. Im actually looking forward to it.
Im happy, healthy and good to go, even if Im not going anywhere. Ive taken back 6-9 months that I used to spend on the road, and enjoying myself with Marti, my family and friends. In short - Gone Fishing.
~From his FB page
Harker
(14,049 posts)Yeah, a white haired kid, but...
Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)pecosbob
(7,545 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,062 posts)I'm glad he's so positive though and it sounds like he's making the best of things!
Years ago Arlo used to perform at my county's annual fair and once I worked up the nerve to approach him during a break and request a song. He had said during the first part of the show that he didn't have a set playlist and just played whatever he felt like playing as the show went on. So I asked him, if he felt like playing Victor Jara, would he? And he did!
Enterstageleft
(3,399 posts)Is one of the all time greatest singing stories of all time.
Enjoy your retirement, know we love you.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Shermann
(7,451 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Enterstageleft
(3,399 posts)I've probably listened to the vinyl & CD version of that song over 100 times. Never gets old.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,059 posts)Always started the day with coffee, suitable (now legal) herbs, and Alice. Great times.
Dixc
(52 posts)Always suspect I have company in doing so....
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)There's a nearby station in Maine, WBLM, that plays the song every thanksgiving around noon, on an old scratch vinyl. We've listened to it for years before sitting down.
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)bigtree
(86,008 posts)...about 10 people watching, including me and my young son. Mind-blowing.
It's been a long ride.
FakeNoose
(32,791 posts)Baby boomers take note: our time is getting shorter.
Take care of the important things while you still can.
Best of luck and health to Arlo Guthrie!
Enjoy your retirement, sir.
malaise
(269,208 posts)I love folks who come to terms with our own frailties and know when to slow down.
crickets
(25,986 posts)I am sorry I never got to see Arlo live, but I'm also glad he knows when to slow down and enjoy his family and friends while he can. Good for him and I wish him many more years in this world. Just having him still on the same planet with all of us makes me happy. For decades now, Alice's Restaurant has been one of the Thanksgiving traditions I really look forward to, and this year will be especially poignant.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I was with family as well and we were on a schedule. I was about to run over just as a parade started up and he was on the other side of the long parade so I missed the chance.
I saw him play up at (my memory is getting a bit moldy) Plymouth College in NH back in the 80's. He was lobbying to get one of his songs adopted as the state song for Massachusetts and told us that as a result he had to clean up his act and make it a respectable show
In any event it was a great show. He is a talented musician, entertainer, and story teller.
I wish him well with his health
"Coming into Los "'Angleeze," bringing in a couple of keys...
sheshe2
(83,941 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)Had no idea he was so precarious medically.
Hope he sticks around for a while yet.
Zorro
(15,749 posts)Here are my AG favorites.
oasis
(49,426 posts)Hekate
(90,848 posts)I think I still have that vinyl album some place.
Arkansas Granny
(31,535 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)groundloop
(11,527 posts)TeamPooka
(24,262 posts)what they after that is up to them but I think it will continue forever.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,024 posts)Politics
In his earlier years, at least from the 1960s to the 1980s, Guthrie had taken what seemed a left-leaning approach to American politics, influenced by his father. In his often lengthy comments during concerts his expressed positions were consistently anti-war, anti-Nixon, pro-drugs and in favor of making nuclear power illegal. However, he apparently did not perceive himself as the major youth culture spokesperson he had been regarded as by the media, as evidenced by the lyrics in his 1979 song "Prologue": "I can remember all of your smiles during the demonstrations ... and together we sang our victory songs though we were worlds apart."[32] A 1969 rewrite of "Alice's Restaurant" pokes fun at then-former President Lyndon Johnson and his staff.
In 1984, he was the featured celebrity in George McGovern's campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination in Guthrie's home state of Massachusetts, performing at rallies and receptions.[33][34]
Guthrie identified as a registered Republican in 2008. He endorsed Texas Congressman Ron Paul for the 2008 Republican Party nomination, and said, "I love this guy. Dr. Paul is the only candidate I know of who would have signed the Constitution of the United States had he been there. I'm with him, because he seems to be the only candidate who actually believes it has as much relevance today as it did a couple of hundred years ago. I look forward to the day when we can work out the differences we have with the same revolutionary vision and enthusiasm that is our American legacy."[35] He told The New York Times Magazine that he (had become) a Republican because, "We had enough good Democrats. We needed a few more good Republicans. We needed a loyal opposition."[36]
Commenting on the upcoming 2016 election, Guthrie identified himself as an independent, and said he was "equally suspicious of Democrats as I am of Republicans." He declined to endorse a candidate, noting that he personally liked Bernie Sanders despite disagreeing with parts of Sanders' platform, while he thought it "wonderful" that Donald Trump was not relying on campaign donations, he did not believe that it necessarily meant that Trump had the best interests of the country in mind.[37]
In 2018, Guthrie contacted publication Urban Milwaukee to clarify his political stance. He stated "I am not a Republican," and expressed deep disagreement with the Trump administration's views, especially the policies on immigration and treatment of detained immigrants by ICE. Guthrie further clarified, "I left the party years ago and do not identify myself with either party these days. I strongly urge my fellow Americans to stop the current trend of guilt by association, and look beyond the party names and affiliations, and work for candidates whose policies are more closely aligned with their own, whatever they may be. ... I don't pretend to be right all the time, and sometimes I've gone so far as to change my mind from time to time."[38]
Guthrie expressed support for the George Floyd protests in June 2020, stating that it would be good if politicians "embraced it rather than resist the evolving nature of what it means to be an American." [39]
Stinky The Clown
(67,824 posts)He's younger than I am. I feel for him. Giving it up is incredibly difficult, particularly when those who love you want you to continue doing what you've been doing but your realize, deep in your soul, that you're just not up to it. The days when you go from late middle age to elderly.
It
Fucking
Sucks
malaise
(269,208 posts)everything that lives dies. I've had a truly fabulous life with perfect health, a great education, loads of fun, great friends, lots of love, some pain and disappointment and always trying to do unto others as I want them to do to me.
russiamommy
(244 posts)Another one that is part of the soundtrack of our lives. We saw him in Raleigh two years ago. Great show. But more importantly, City of New Orleans was my dads favorite song. Will never hear that song without thinking of my dad, whos been gone for 7 years. 😢
luvallpeeps
(935 posts)Tom Paine once wrote To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead . Excellent! Keeping that in my files. May he have a long happy retirement. Bless him.
LaMouffette
(2,039 posts)Dear Arlo Guthrie,
Don't know if you ever visit the DU forum, but thank you for the beautifully written explanation of your retirement. Please know how much your fans appreciate it and know that I am one of them. When I was a teenager, I used to crawl out the window of my bedroom and sit on the roof of our porch with my first guitar and try to play your songs. I loved them all, from the sweet and soothing "Going Home" to the wonderfully absurd "Story of Reuben Clamzo" ("Clamzo me boys, clamzo!" .
Once I got my driver's license, I ditched my guitar to pursue, you know, young person stuff. But when I finally settled down with my husband and bought a little house in the country, the urge to play guitar came backbig timeand so did the urge to listen to and play your music. Every couple of weeks, I play "Going Home" on my guitar and every Thanksgiving for the past 20 years, I have played my "Alice's Restaurant" CD and insisted that everyone in the house stop whatever they were doing and listen to you singing it in its entirety.
Thank you, Arlo, and bless you and your family!
spanone
(135,892 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)In LA, with us singing "Flying Into Los Angeles" and, our personal theme song, "The Motorcycle Song," on the way to the Bowl. I think that's where it was... Outdoors. He's not the only one 50 years older.
Hope better attention to his health means he'll be sharp and with us for a long time to come.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Raine
(30,541 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)He was a die hard devotee of Ron Paul and a long time registered Republican. (Which he now hides from)
Could have been a powerful voice for universal health care given his family's tough challenges, but never spoke up.
Not a Joan
Not a Woody
Not a Pete.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)ride his motorcycle.
Liberal In Texas
(13,586 posts)Even spoke to him a little, in the rest room of all places. At that time he wasn't doing "Alice's Restaurant" anymore, he was tired of performing it.
Arlo, I wish you a long and restful retirement. Now marry that woman.
Trumpdumper
(171 posts)DownriverDem
(6,232 posts)the new adventure!
cannabis_flower
(3,768 posts)Im glad he didnt inherit Huntingtons from his dad, Woody Guthrie
OneBlueSky
(18,536 posts)about an hour from my home . . . I decided to get some friends together and make the trip . . .
At the time I owned a two-unit house and rented the second apartment to a family that included a 15-year-old kid . . . he'd often stop over and want to browse my rather extensive record collection, and I'd occasionally loan him an album or two to take home and listen to . . . one of his favorites was "Alice's Restaurant," which he played often enough to pretty much learn the whole song . . . when he heard that we were going to see Arlo in concert, he begged to be included . . . so I ordered an extra ticket and we took him along . . .
about 20 minutes into the trip, the kid asked "Do you think Arlo will sing 'Alice's Restaurant tonight?" . . . I'd recently heard an interview in which Arlo explained why he almost never did that song in concert anymore . . . I didn't want the kid to be disappointed at the show, so I told him that the chances of hearing "Alice's" that night were, unfortunately, not good . . .
about 10 minutes later, the kid announces that Arlo will indeed perform his signature song that evening! . . . and he repeated the prediction about every ten minutes until we arrived at the venue . . . I kept trying to dissuade him, but he kept insisting, so I finally just shrugged, told him not to be too disappointed, and let it go . . .
we had great aisle seats a few rows from the stage, and Pete and Arlo did their usual great job up until intermission . . . as they returned for the second half, my young friend was still sure that he was going to hear his favorite Arlo Guthrie number . . . me, not so much . . .
so the guys come back on stage, Pete sits down on the floor behind Arlo, who sits on a chair stage center and starts strumming the guitar part to "Alice's Restaurant" . . . says "I don't do this in concert very often anymore, but I kinda feel like it tonight" . . . I turned around to see the kid, who was in the row behind me, flashing me the biggest "I told you so!" shit-eatin' grin I've ever seen . . . needless to say, I felt like a dummy -- but a happy dummy seeing this kid's dream come true that night . . . and he never let me forget it . . .
God Bless, Arlo . . . thanks for all the great music through the years, and especially for giving a young fan a thrill he always remember as "the night Arlo played 'Alice's Restaurant' FOR ME!" . . .
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Gonna miss you Arlo - Live Long and Prosper!
kpete
(72,024 posts)I met mr pete in Honolulu in 1970. You used to give free concerts in the park. We never missed one that summer. You were the backdrop to our first days together.
Enjoy your fishing trip, we are planning ours.
mr & mrs pete
DFW
(54,447 posts)He was one guest among many when a friend of mine was giving his first 85 years concert.
I then saw him two or three times in the very small setting of the Payomet Performing Arts Tent in Truro, Mass, on the tip of Cape Cod. The last time was 2018 or 2019, I forget. Im grateful for the chance to have seen him as many times as I did.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,025 posts)have a smile the rest of this day (and a great song stuck in your head!)
With guest Pete Seeger.
Good luck Arlo, with the next phase of your life.
LuckyLib
(6,821 posts)Music Man
(1,184 posts)My parents introduced me to his music when I was a kid, and it's been close to my heart ever since.
I saw him perform a number of years ago. Got to hear the entirety of "Alice's Restaurant" live. I've had a pretty good existence
JohnnyRingo
(18,657 posts)Mick and Keith to Arlo:
"pussy"
I hope Arlo gets better and spends his remaining snuggled up with family.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,572 posts)I hope he has a long and fulfilling retirement. He is one of the dwindling number of 60's icons, and I like and respect him a LOT.
Progressive dog
(6,921 posts)A few years ago, we saw him with with the Boston Pops at Tanglewood. Had tickets for 2020 to see him with Judy Collins at Tanglewood, the concert was postponed to 2021 and now Arlo won't be performing with Judy.
Years ago, he bought the church in Gr. Barrington, MA that had been owned by Alice and her husband. When they reopen to the public, I intend to finally go there/
Joinfortmill
(14,477 posts)The Wizard
(12,551 posts)You made us laugh, cry and think. Everyone left your shows with a smile. Your kids are an enduring testament to your legacy.