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Beachnutt

(8,873 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:15 AM Oct 2020

If rethugs steal the election will any states vote to secede ?

Which states ?
I wanna know so I can prepare to move out of texas.

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If rethugs steal the election will any states vote to secede ? (Original Post) Beachnutt Oct 2020 OP
Live in Texas? Pack now, beat the rush. 634-5789 Oct 2020 #1
We need to stay strong and persevere. secondwind Oct 2020 #2
I thought that in 2016 too, rethugs are preparing their theft now Beachnutt Oct 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #29
No. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2020 #3
I will be advocating for a separation referendum in MI. roamer65 Oct 2020 #4
We can just join Canada. No geographical complications. marmar Oct 2020 #10
Bingo. roamer65 Oct 2020 #11
This kirkuchiyo Oct 2020 #12
Canada would become a powerhouse Chipper Chat Oct 2020 #15
Don't forget WA!! MizLibby Oct 2020 #35
I dream for Pacifica. Chipper Chat Oct 2020 #37
Hmm, Disaffected Oct 2020 #38
Someone needs a sense of humor. marmar Oct 2020 #39
Agreed. Disaffected Oct 2020 #47
Putin's bdamomma Oct 2020 #50
Yeah! Because it worked so well in 1860! sweetloukillbot Oct 2020 #14
Stealing the election invalidates the compact between the states. roamer65 Oct 2020 #16
This if they steal it will be the 3rd time in my lifetime that the rethugs Beachnutt Oct 2020 #22
I'd rather see bluestarone Oct 2020 #5
Which state governments give money to the federal Govt? onenote Oct 2020 #30
I look at it like RUMP controlling next 4 years, we would be russia, SO bluestarone Oct 2020 #32
For one thing, freedom onenote Oct 2020 #40
ALL of us? bluestarone Oct 2020 #41
Why not? If you agree they're evil, why wouldn't they? onenote Oct 2020 #42
If RUMPS elected by cheating bluestarone Oct 2020 #44
I doubt it. Turbineguy Oct 2020 #6
That could very well come true. Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #8
Blue state residency then needs to become near citizenship. roamer65 Oct 2020 #13
+1 dalton99a Oct 2020 #20
I'm sure the SCOTUS will rule any such things unconstitutional... regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #52
What are the chances of a stolen election? Do I need to start getting my head around this happening? idziak4ever1234 Oct 2020 #9
They are getting better edhopper Oct 2020 #23
No they don't. Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #25
Like they didn't overturn edhopper Oct 2020 #26
If you want to believe it's going to be stolen Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #27
I know edhopper Oct 2020 #34
No sarisataka Oct 2020 #17
To stir the shit. That's it. Iggo Oct 2020 #48
And I to move from SC. NT raccoon Oct 2020 #18
Maybe not states, but I will. sinkingfeeling Oct 2020 #19
Not this again. panader0 Oct 2020 #21
No way. Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #24
No. onenote Oct 2020 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #31
Yep. Iggo Oct 2020 #33
No we'll just drink Bud Lite and watch the Super Bowl. BlueNProud Oct 2020 #36
Nope. We're stuck with each other. Hekate Oct 2020 #43
Not right away, but it may have to be on the table. tinrobot Oct 2020 #45
It's the other way around. We'd have to fight to leave. Iggo Oct 2020 #49
"Their" stuff? tinrobot Oct 2020 #51
If the rethugs steal it, then covid will spiral even further out of control. Yavin4 Oct 2020 #46

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. We need to stay strong and persevere.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:17 AM
Oct 2020

I prefer not to think about secession yet. It’s tantamount to the proverbial mind-fucking.

Beachnutt

(8,873 posts)
7. I thought that in 2016 too, rethugs are preparing their theft now
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:20 AM
Oct 2020

I am leaving tx if not the country..

Response to Beachnutt (Reply #7)

roamer65

(37,818 posts)
4. I will be advocating for a separation referendum in MI.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:19 AM
Oct 2020

Sometimes the best route is divorce.

Chipper Chat

(10,779 posts)
15. Canada would become a powerhouse
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:34 AM
Oct 2020

with the addition of Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois and Wisconsin. Control of the western Great lakes. Add Vermont and New York state and maybe new Hampshire.

Chipper Chat

(10,779 posts)
37. I dream for Pacifica.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:08 AM
Oct 2020

Washington Oregon California and Hawaii. Maybe throw in american Samoa for good measure.

roamer65

(37,818 posts)
16. Stealing the election invalidates the compact between the states.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:36 AM
Oct 2020

Why would we stay under an illegitimate dictatorship?

Beachnutt

(8,873 posts)
22. This if they steal it will be the 3rd time in my lifetime that the rethugs
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:29 AM
Oct 2020

stole the election, its beginning to look like a free and fair election is a farce.

bluestarone

(21,287 posts)
5. I'd rather see
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:19 AM
Oct 2020

Dem. states start refusing to give federal money to RUMP!! Wonder what would happen?

onenote

(45,993 posts)
30. Which state governments give money to the federal Govt?
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:49 AM
Oct 2020

And if you’re advocating that Democrats in blue states refuse to pay their federal taxes — well it’s pretty obvious how that would turn out.

bluestarone

(21,287 posts)
32. I look at it like RUMP controlling next 4 years, we would be russia, SO
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:56 AM
Oct 2020

Yea no federal taxes paid! Exactly what i'm advocating! What would we have to lose?

onenote

(45,993 posts)
42. Why not? If you agree they're evil, why wouldn't they?
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:20 AM
Oct 2020

Or they would cut off Federal funds to bluE states.

bluestarone

(21,287 posts)
44. If RUMPS elected by cheating
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:26 AM
Oct 2020

I will take my chances, on doing WHATEVER the blue state decides to do!

Turbineguy

(39,860 posts)
6. I doubt it.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:20 AM
Oct 2020

But I expect Blue States to have their own health care systems, perhaps even regional co-ops.

roamer65

(37,818 posts)
13. Blue state residency then needs to become near citizenship.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:28 AM
Oct 2020

We won’t be able to afford those just moving here for the health care.

idziak4ever1234

(1,257 posts)
9. What are the chances of a stolen election? Do I need to start getting my head around this happening?
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:21 AM
Oct 2020

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
25. No they don't.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:34 AM
Oct 2020

Remember 2018? 2008, 2012? They're not going to steal the election. The courts won't overturn a Biden win.

edhopper

(37,104 posts)
26. Like they didn't overturn
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:37 AM
Oct 2020

a Gore win in 2000?

Like the Court just ruled Wisconsin cannot count valid ballots.

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
27. If you want to believe it's going to be stolen
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:40 AM
Oct 2020

I can't stop you. I'm not into doom and gloom scenarios that aren't going to happen.

sarisataka

(22,253 posts)
17. No
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:48 AM
Oct 2020

Remember when right wing nutcases talked about secession during Obama's term? How many here laughed at their foolishness for such a ridiculous idea? That the Civil War had ended the notion that states could choose to secede and if any tried, they could be met with force? That IF a state wanted to leave and the rest of the country was willing to allow it, the state would have to pay back the billions of Federal dollars spent on infrastructure?

If the idea was so foolish four years ago, why do the same people who ridiculed it then keep bringing it up as a possibility now?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
21. Not this again.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:11 AM
Oct 2020

The damage to the state, even if they could secede, would be catastrophic. How many people in that
state have government jobs? How many are on programs like Social Security, or SSI or Medicare?
It's not an option. We are the United States. United. States.

Response to Beachnutt (Original post)

tinrobot

(11,963 posts)
45. Not right away, but it may have to be on the table.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:27 AM
Oct 2020

I could see the West Coast forming it's own union.

I'm on the fence about it. Would much rather stay and fight for our friends in the red states.

Iggo

(49,677 posts)
49. It's the other way around. We'd have to fight to leave.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 03:05 PM
Oct 2020

We can’t just say “we’re leaving” and take all their stuff.

tinrobot

(11,963 posts)
51. "Their" stuff?
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 04:20 PM
Oct 2020

I'm afraid not. But I guess that's what the fight will be over.

First salvo will be cutting off their Twitter accounts.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
46. If the rethugs steal it, then covid will spiral even further out of control.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:35 AM
Oct 2020

The blue states will have to secede by throwing up barriers to physical entry.

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