Doom and gloom posts should be banned this weekend

[Proud liberal 80]

No posting polls from sketchy polling outfits.

No post about early votes in Florida or Nevada saying that Democrats aren’t voting.

And other doom and gloom posts....I want to come to this site looking for positivity.

[agingdem]

1. I'm with you...

just once can we go into an election with a "we can do this" attitude instead of "we're all gonna die"?...we vote we win...

[c-rational]

47. +1 Well Said. Be Vigilant and Keep it Positive.

[lagomorph777]

2. I'm going to start blocking each poster who does that.

They're not on our side.

[Iggo]

4. Way ahead of you.

[greenjar_01]

8. +1000

Some obvious, some deluded old-timers. Sad mix. Imagine spending your day that way?

[MoonRiver]

58. Some of we old timers have been through the political mill

over the last 20 years (God has it really been 20 years? No wonder I feel old.) Anyway I feel as positive as can be but I also remember other times when that positivity turned sour. That said, I very strongly believe we’re gonna have an awesome night next Tuesday!

[greenjar_01]

60. There are more old-timers than post count accounts for

Something to think about.

[MoonRiver]

61. You can check when people joined

[greenjar_01]

63. There are more old timers than join date accounts for

Something to think about.

[MoonRiver]

64. What are you trying to get at?

[greenjar_01]

65. And that's all I got to say about that

[PatSeg]

70. What?!?!?

[PatSeg]

71. I am pretty much where you are at

Basically I'm 99.9% positive it is going to be a landslide win for us on Tuesday, but the last twenty years has tempered my enthusiasm a bit. It comes from learning to never trust a republican politician. There is no limit to how low they will go to win.

I'm trying very hard to stay in the 99.9% mindset. At this point, it would serve no purpose to start second guessing everything.

[DownriverDem]

37. I'm on our side.

I'm just concerned. Is that okay?

[beachbumbob]

3. I be happy not seeing anything from polls or 538 from here on out

its all useless at this point any way


its about voting and making all around you vote

[AmericanCanuck]

5. +1 ...

We need to keep a positive environment from now until the victory.

No roller coaster needed.

[greenjar_01]

6. Definitely a pattern among the Miami-Dade Panic crew and a few others

I'm trashing all of that. Probably better than a blanket ban, since some people get their rocks off reading doom posts for some reason, who am I to judge?

[greenjar_01]

9. Haaaa!

I thought they were coming from kansas...

[BannonsLiver]

20. Well that too

And Nevada, if last night was any indication.

“But but Jon Ralston!11”

[lagomorph777]

10. +1

[BainsBane]

15. How many GOTV shifts will you be doing this weekend?

https://www.mobilize.us/

[BannonsLiver]

19. You don't think there are trolls working on behalf of Putin?

[BainsBane]

29. That wasn't my quesiton

What are you doing to contribute to the victory? Or is your sole mission to thought police?

Believe it or not, Putin's primary interest isn't your feelings. The Russians want to stop people from voting. They aren't saying work like we're 10 points behind--because that's Biden. They aren't encouraging others to GOTV. But promoting complacency does benefit Trump and the Russians.

[BannonsLiver]

30. Well it was my answer, whether it was your question or not

Best get to calling voters rather than berating people here who aren’t scared.

[Sunsky]

11. Yes please

We're going into this with positive thoughts.

[Johnny2X2X]

12. Hey, I'll be happy if DU stays up and running

When it got hacked and taken down Tuesday it was absolutely traumatic.

[GoCubsGo]

13. What? Deprive me of the joy of hitting "Trash This Thread"?

Let 'em post their doom and gloom. You don't have to read it.

[BainsBane]

14. I hope everyone demanding no one feel nervous

about the election is working really hard to turn out the vote. https://www.mobilize.us/

How many shifts will you be doing this weekend?

Because the number 1 danger to a Democratic victory is pretending the Democrats have it in the bag. Joe says we run like we are 10 points behind, but according to some that makes him a troll. Joe doesn't know that actually turning out the votes and winning the election is less important than making some voters feel good. Silly him.

[Dem2]

17. We come here to destress

Not to be guilted into thinking we're somehow not single-handedly pushing Biden across the line.

[BainsBane]

24. But guilting people

who are working their asses off but are nervous, that's okay. Calling them Russian trolls is okay.

The chief beneficiary from the "we have in the bag" ethos is the GOP because its danger lies in promoting complacency rather than hard work.

I care a lot less about "de-stressing" than actually winning this election, and if we are to win, we need all hands on deck. But I keep forgetting the goal is not to actually win but to make you feel good. For some of us, the only effective de-stressor is getting Trump out, and that takes work. https://www.mobilize.us/

This is not an entertainment site. It's a site for Democrats. If it can't be used to organize, what's the point?

[Dem2]

35. Noble words

Perhaps you forgot this has been the most anxiety producing year in history?

I can see you're going to dig your feet in further as you've chosen this tact based on a seeming "offense" that you've taken to my position, but inside you know my point is valid and that hundreds here agree with my point of view.

[BainsBane]

40. Oh I know lots of people agree with you

I know yours is a comfortable position. I just don't find it productive. Clearly our priorities are different.

[Dem2]

42. Don't care for the passive-aggressive knock, but...

I'm sorry you're having a bad day.

[Proud liberal 80]

21. Working at my County Democratic headquarters this weekend

Here in Texas, like I have every Saturday

[BainsBane]

34. That's great

Thank you for your contribution!

[BannonsLiver]

22. Can I pose this question

Call me crazy, and hear me out, but what if, and this is just a theory, but what if there was some MIDDLE GROUND between thinking we have it in the bag and completely crapping our pants with fear?

What if there’s this place, and again I’m just spitballing here, but what if someone was simply confident that Biden will win, but still vigilant?

[BainsBane]

26. Yet calling those of us who work our asses off

and have done so for months "Russian trolls" because we don't prioritize your feelings over winning is perfectly acceptable. If you're so confident, why do you feel compelled to thought police?

[BannonsLiver]

27. So to recap

1. There’s NO middle ground.

2. If one is not shitting their pants with fear they are terrible Democrats who are overconfident.

Got it.

[BainsBane]

33. That isn't what I said

and you know it. No one is telling you to be nervous, but you have decided to call those who are Putin's trolls. You've obviously defined your role for the campaign. I happen to think working to GOTV is more productive than enforcing thought control. We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm comfortable with my choice because I'm doing everything I can to bring about a victory Tuesday night.

[BannonsLiver]

36. That's really great. Very cool. So get to it, then.

Berating people here who aren’t scared or crapping their pants doesn’t seem conducive to what you say you are doing.

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[BainsBane]

41. Clearly how to win

or whether we win isn't an important or serious subject to you.

If you're so sensitive to "berating," try not calling people Russian trolls. As I made very clear, my issue is not that you're not nervous, it's that you insult everyone who is.

[USALiberal]

16. It is called the Alert process! No need to add anything else! nt

[demmiblue]

18. Just trash threads you don't like/place posters on ignore. Simple.

[obamanut2012]

23. 100% THIS

[Hotler]

28. Or wear a little thicker skin when playing in GD.

It can be a rough crowd. Just saying.

[Sherman A1]

39. Agreed

Folks have concerns and should be able to share them.

[Spazito]

31. This is one of the few times I actually use the 'trash thread' option...

I actually just trashed my first 'doom and gloom' thread this morning.

[brooklynite]

32. I've been here since 2001...

I have 65,000+ posts.

Доверьтесь мне!

[USALiberal]

51. And???? nt

[BlueIdaho]

38. Let them sink.

Don’t reply - just let them sink out of sight.

[LAS14]

43. I disagree.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14393054

[cwydro]

57. ...

[Harker]

44. I'll be ringing my bell, not wringing my hands. n/t

[bucolic_frolic]

46. Fine let's work on the turnout so ours is larger than theirs

early voting is not the same as all voting

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

48. Same with the posts freaking out about how

they're going to steal the election.

A friend who lives in PA just posted this on FB:

Our noble state legislature has set it up so that, if the count is close, they can keep demanding recounts, and if they can delay the final count until 8th December, they will be allowed to appoint the electors. We all know who those crooks will vote for. ALSO, they can investigate any "fraud" and question the validity of the elections...again, allowing them to appoint the electors. Pennsylvania is one of the states where there is a real possibilty of armed militias showing up to intimidate voteres. Guys, we are going to be screwed over by the stinking, cheating, lying Republicans like never before. Damn the lot of them.

I did post back asking what the specific requirements in PA triggered an automatic recount. And would the state legislature even be in session in November and December. Honestly, this sounds like the sort of bad and unverified information my friend is all too apt to post. He doesn't always bother to check facts, which is frustrating. He's been convinced all along that the election will be totally stolen, and is far too quick to buy into doom and gloom.

[yaesu]

49. Doom & Gloom? I got my grocery shopping done & mulched an acre of leaves all before 11AM

no doom & gloom here! Seriously though, we have to have open topics here, the good, the bad & the ugly, burying our heads in the sand would not be prudent at this juncture.

[tiredtoo]

50. I haven't looked forward to an event

with this much enthusiasm since I was a child waiting for Christmas.

[Proud liberal 80]

56. You are now on my ignore list

[kimbutgar]

53. Yes we need to be positive but cautious and vote like our lives depends on it.

I get anxiety every time I see those posts saying the race is tightening. We’ve already been traumatized Enough since November 7th 2016 !!!!!

[Miigwech]

54. No doom and gloom, not feeling it, nerves are jumping

but got something bubbly, something for my pipe, pumpkins to smash, firecrackers to set off inside the pumpkins (create a pumpkin soup, lol), friends on stand-by.... And hopefully DU will be up and running this year without hackers. The kindred spirits, searching souls and intellectual heft at DU is always important to me. We will be gathering around the proverbial fire pit election night and I just wish we can all share THE VICTORY on DU!!!!! VOTE..... VOTE .... VOTE KEEP 'EM COMING IN , bury the fuckers under an avalanche of ballots.

[birdographer]

55. Excellent plan

I was just thinking about this. Twitter suspended my account for saying police shot at protesters with rubber bullets (which they did). This was a true blessing. Reading Twitter posts sent my stress skyrocketing so thank you, Twitter, for breaking my horrible habit. I had been visiting DU for quite awhile but never posted. I now spend time here that I used to spend on Twitter, and it's because of how positive people are here. And how they require sources for posts. I don't get stressed out here. So I agree, let's keep it positive and hopeful and supportive.

[cwydro]

59. Really? No free speech on DU?

Oh my, the irony.

Maybe some of those posting OPs about worries just are coming to this community for reassurance.

I saw this same scorn in 2016 when I was worried. I stopped posting because of it.

Calling longtime DUers trolls or Russians or bots? Sorry, not going for that.

Use trash tread, use ignore. No one is making you read anything, k?

[Kaleva]

68. There never has been free speech here. TOS makes that clear.

[BusyBeingBest]

62. I don't think we need to be coddled.

[Blue Owl]

66. K&R

[Autumn]

67. Then you should use the tools DU has created to make your experience the way you want it.

There is alert, trash thread, ignore threads and posters, ignore topic by key word. Or log out. Plenty of choices there. We are all adults on a message board. I imagine EarlG can tell us how to behave if he felt the need. Since, ya know it's his site.

[Silent3]

69. Nope. Can go along with that kind of censorship.

People feel what they feel, want to say what they want to say, and if they aren't breaking general rules of civility or the posting guidelines for DU, they should feel free to post what they wish to post.

It's not other people's job to blow sunshine up your ass, even if that's all you personally want to get out of DU between now and election day.