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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:36 PM Oct 2020

"The reason we're all so anxious is because we're about to find out..."



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Adam Parkhomenko
@AdamParkhomenko
The reason we’re all so anxious is because we’re about to find out if America is too stupid to live.
9:30 AM · Oct 30, 2020
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"The reason we're all so anxious is because we're about to find out..." (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2020 OP
It's a fair question. BKDem Oct 2020 #1
My concern is the period between November 4th and January 20th Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #2
Lame ducks with flamethrowers central scrutinizer Oct 2020 #5
Noel Casler thinks he'll be gone right after the election barbtries Oct 2020 #7
No country will want him save N. Korea and Russia. StClone Oct 2020 #10
i don't know about that. barbtries Oct 2020 #15
You are right I'll add that StClone Oct 2020 #17
I've been thinking Saudi Arabia for his exile, all along. scarletwoman Oct 2020 #18
I could see it. After all, Idi Amin enjoyed a luxurious retirement in KSA. Marcuse Oct 2020 #24
I think some "shithole" countries will take him peacebuzzard Oct 2020 #32
Not sure about Russia Rural_Progressive Oct 2020 #35
It also has to be a country we can't send a cruise missile into.... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #40
They can't "bunker" at Mar-a-Lago obamanut2012 Oct 2020 #26
Bunker in a Prison sounds better StClone Oct 2020 #33
He will have Air Force 1 to go anywhere he wants before Biden is sworn in LiberalArkie Oct 2020 #38
I imagine that he will fire lots and lots of career fed employees vlyons Oct 2020 #28
that will get tied up in the courts..... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #42
this llashram Oct 2020 #59
I'm concerned but not afraid Politicub Oct 2020 #60
We might be. BusyBeingBest Oct 2020 #3
No truer words. Native Oct 2020 #4
or if republicans are too feckless to let us. barbtries Oct 2020 #6
We're about to find out if we still have a Democracy or not Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #8
+1 Hugin Oct 2020 #12
Agreed. This is certainly the test. It's worrying. brush Oct 2020 #9
Many always were. But Pox Noise gave them a way out of the closet. calimary Oct 2020 #58
Great analysis. You're so right about how right wing media spread it. brush Oct 2020 #61
totally agree but all indiction point to we are not that stupid. Nov 3rd about 10pm we will KNOW beachbumbob Oct 2020 #11
On the bright side... Binkie The Clown Oct 2020 #13
Nov 3 - National I.Q. Test lame54 Oct 2020 #14
Ding! Ding! Ding! Totally Tunsie Oct 2020 #52
On the other hand, untold millions of us are desperately trying to get our votes in & counted... Hekate Oct 2020 #16
Your description of the situation is very accurate. n/t Hugin Oct 2020 #25
This combined with the Deplorable's ability to cheat in every possible situation. unitedwethrive Oct 2020 #19
Sadly, yes. PatrickforO Oct 2020 #20
Yup. cwydro Oct 2020 #21
Dump steals it and take the oath, I am a full blown separatist. roamer65 Oct 2020 #22
I'm wondering.. I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #49
I look at Quebec as an example. roamer65 Oct 2020 #50
The truth will out Augiedog Oct 2020 #23
The narrative this week: Latinos are going big for him. Brainfodder Oct 2020 #27
If you read that other post about Cuban Americans... Silent3 Oct 2020 #29
I had read that.... Brainfodder Oct 2020 #30
The Biden campaign has a video featuring abuelas. soldierant Oct 2020 #48
Kudos! Basically my reaction to his BS.... Brainfodder Oct 2020 #62
That has always been the case because Cubans have different rules concerning immigration. If they JI7 Oct 2020 #56
Founding Fathers feared mass public opinion bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #31
I believe in all the sane, patriotic citizens who have waited 4 long years to get rid of Trump. BarbD Oct 2020 #34
We're about to find out whether our voting process is too corrupted to allow us to live AdamGG Oct 2020 #36
Yeah. Dios Mio Oct 2020 #37
Covid newdayneeded Oct 2020 #39
I'm not anxious at all Roc2020 Oct 2020 #41
Yup, we either have 78 more days or 4 more year of scorched earth policy and lies. nt woodsprite Oct 2020 #43
Either the Fascist Oligarch eXtremists won or voters win. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2020 #44
63 million people apparently believe reality TV is real GopherGal Oct 2020 #45
No kidding! BlueJac Oct 2020 #46
OR.. if America is As SMART AS WE ARE. Cha Oct 2020 #47
A rather extreme and disheartening take on the election, and the current state of society in general BobTheSubgenius Oct 2020 #51
Yep...IMHO, that hits the nail on the head...n/t Upthevibe Oct 2020 #53
A country that would re-elect Trump would be a danger to humanity. hay rick Oct 2020 #54
A friend was telling that her grown sons avebury Oct 2020 #55
True that. And, the odds aren't as good as I'd like. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2020 #57

barbtries

(28,795 posts)
7. Noel Casler thinks he'll be gone right after the election
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:47 PM
Oct 2020



many commenters on the thread thinks the whole clan will escape to UAE

peacebuzzard

(5,173 posts)
32. I think some "shithole" countries will take him
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:09 PM
Oct 2020

but he couldn't work the system there, unless he had lots of money and lawyers.
And, he would not be able to complain about his host country. I don't think he is capable of that.
Would he be able to access his Presidential retirement benefits as a fugitive or asylum seeker?

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
35. Not sure about Russia
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:31 PM
Oct 2020

He never got the oligarchs' bank accounts unfrozen to the best of my knowledge. May make him less than popular in the Motherland.

getagrip_already

(14,752 posts)
40. It also has to be a country we can't send a cruise missile into....
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 03:09 PM
Oct 2020

Because he would be an enemy of the state and fair game to neutralize.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
26. They can't "bunker" at Mar-a-Lago
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:30 PM
Oct 2020

There is no way to secure that area, it isn't the WH. All you need are a few boats and helicopters with shock troops and BOOM. They have them all. Good grief, we don't even have basements here because of the water table, and MaL is right on the water.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
28. I imagine that he will fire lots and lots of career fed employees
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:55 PM
Oct 2020

To make it very very difficult for the gov to operate. He might also sign more anti-environmental executive orders, like drilling in protected ocean areas and logging in national forests. He's such a vengeful hateful stinker.

getagrip_already

(14,752 posts)
42. that will get tied up in the courts.....
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 03:11 PM
Oct 2020

And unless scotus snatches it from the lower courts, it will take months to wind it's way to them, at which point it can be reversed.

This is more of a play for if he gets re-appointed. Less for if he gets deposed.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
60. I'm concerned but not afraid
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:12 AM
Oct 2020

There is so much cleanup to be done already. Joe has been preparing to take this on. He is surrounding himself with competent people who he will delegate tasks to. There are people like Mayor Pete who are ready to go and have experience modeling problems and finding solutions.

All executive orders can be cancelled. Federal civil servants can be reinstated with their seniority intact. These things rest in the hands of the executive branch.

And Kamala. She will be able to get justice back into shape and take on the big strategies that Joe entrusts her with. And anything else because she is amazing.

Trump? He will try to wreck the country more, of course. He hates America. He has skewed the judiciary branch, but Joe has a strategy for dealing with that, too. Remember how DADT took a year to be consigned to the dustbin of history? That was deliberate and was a process so getting rid of it would endure; and it has. I see the judicial commission as taking a similar role with expanding the courts.

But come January, Trump will be gone. His awful cabinet will be gone. His stench will remain for sometime, but he will be neutered and done.

barbtries

(28,795 posts)
6. or if republicans are too feckless to let us.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:45 PM
Oct 2020

my hopes are very high that even if trump steals it, the people will not stand for it.

what i want more than anything at all is to know on election night that Biden will be our next president.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
8. We're about to find out if we still have a Democracy or not
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:48 PM
Oct 2020

Either we still have a functioning Democracy or Trump wins. If Trump wins, we lost or Democracy 4 years ago though, not this election.

brush

(53,778 posts)
9. Agreed. This is certainly the test. It's worrying.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:49 PM
Oct 2020

I mean thousands are adamant against wearing masks during a pandemic, including our stupid imposter president.

When did so many Americans get that dumb?

calimary

(81,267 posts)
58. Many always were. But Pox Noise gave them a way out of the closet.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:12 AM
Oct 2020

That and hate radio that metastasized in small markets from coast to coast. For the first time in their lives, they had loud, and wide open validation and moral support for their lousy thinking. And we’re all reaping the whirlwind.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
13. On the bright side...
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:51 PM
Oct 2020

...if Trump wins and continues his Covid policies all his followers will be dead in 4 years.

Of course many of us will be too.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
16. On the other hand, untold millions of us are desperately trying to get our votes in & counted...
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:56 PM
Oct 2020

...in the face of what I’ve been calling the New Jim Crow laws. I’ve come to realize the diff between Old Jim Crow and New Jim Crow is that the new measures are designed to disenfranchise everybody who is not a MAGAt, regardless of race, creed, or color.

Most Americans are objecting and have been objecting since the day Trump was inaugurated. Loudly and in public, from Portland Oregon to Washington DC, in the face of billy-clubs and tear gas and rubber bullets.

We managed to change the House in 2018. Now we find out if we can change the diaper in DC and flush Don away.

Now we find out if the majority of us still have a vote that will be counted, or if we have lost that in the overwhelming efforts of the GOP to make sure we don’t. Thus, coming back to your OP — we find out if America, the concept and the country, is too stupid to live.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
19. This combined with the Deplorable's ability to cheat in every possible situation.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:00 PM
Oct 2020

And they have help from anti-democratic foreign leaders. Which apparently is okay with them.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
20. Sadly, yes.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:06 PM
Oct 2020

But I remain optimistic.

If anyone who reads this has not yet voted, please do so! Now, more than ever before, a few votes can turn the tide.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
22. Dump steals it and take the oath, I am a full blown separatist.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:08 PM
Oct 2020

No reason to stay for fascism. There is nothing in the Constitution that says states have to stay for that shit.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,470 posts)
49. I'm wondering..
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 09:26 PM
Oct 2020

If it comes to fascism can the Dems secede from the assholes?
Let them have thier fascist dumbfuckistan.

And make it so no one from dumbfuckistan can set foot in blue country. Without proving they renounced the beliefs of the dumfucks over there. Let them face many tests, including character psych and sociopathy and authoritaian etc. Even than they'd have to prove themselves and have not broken laws.

I dunno if things go fascist I will still fight for democracy. Whether it is as one country or more.

Silent3

(15,212 posts)
29. If you read that other post about Cuban Americans...
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:55 PM
Oct 2020

...it says that many Cuban Americans are just as callously anti-immigrant as a lot of lily-white Republicans. They don't at all identify with Mexicans and many other latinx immigrants.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
30. I had read that....
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:57 PM
Oct 2020

I am skeptical, and don't live near there, 1st hand account chance, 0.

I don't want to believe it....

Same problem some Trumpers have right now?


They cherry-picked FL Cubans as Latinos for Trump.
Malarkey as usual, no honesty and integrity at all.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
56. That has always been the case because Cubans have different rules concerning immigration. If they
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 05:54 AM
Oct 2020

make it hear they can stay . The same is not true for other Latinos or I believe any other groups.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
31. Founding Fathers feared mass public opinion
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:59 PM
Oct 2020

They restricted voting rights to white men of property, appointed electors as wise elders to vote the will of the people, allowed legislatures to appoint Senators, and protected judges from short term political influence.

All systems have failed.

Elections are decided by last minute voters who know little of issues or politics. But they watch TV and text!

BarbD

(1,193 posts)
34. I believe in all the sane, patriotic citizens who have waited 4 long years to get rid of Trump.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:26 PM
Oct 2020

I also believe we need to be alert to Trump's enablers and all the shenanigans that they will try until January 20th.

They will not take our country away from us!

AdamGG

(1,291 posts)
36. We're about to find out whether our voting process is too corrupted to allow us to live
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:35 PM
Oct 2020

Biden will win if votes aren't suppressed. The question is how successful Dump's efforts to fuck with the mail, not count mail in ballots, purging voter rolls and other undermining of the process have been.

The said thing is, the only evidence of that is when the announced results don't match the polling and that happened in 2016.

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
39. Covid
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 03:03 PM
Oct 2020

The dirtbag is now talking herd immunity. 300 million people in the US. 70% would have to get it for the immunity effect. at the current mortality rate. that's almost 2 million people dead. This election IS about life or death. Biden will take this serious, and implement policy that will move us finally in the right direction.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
41. I'm not anxious at all
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 03:11 PM
Oct 2020

I deal with the public everyday for my job. Most Americans are not stupid. Trump failed spectacularly. He will lose badly. Period.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
45. 63 million people apparently believe reality TV is real
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 04:20 PM
Oct 2020

... and that the gas-bag boss on "the Apprentice" was a successful business man. Or at least they believed that as of 2016.

Now we get to see how many of them can update their opinions based upon new information.

Honestly, I think the vote totals will be on our side, if we ever get to count them all. But the potential for obstruction and elector-certification chicanery worries me.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
51. A rather extreme and disheartening take on the election, and the current state of society in general
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 09:38 PM
Oct 2020

It's not the way I'd have put it, but I can't deny the truth it, either.

hay rick

(7,618 posts)
54. A country that would re-elect Trump would be a danger to humanity.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 01:06 AM
Oct 2020

A society that would tolerate his continued rule would be no better.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
55. A friend was telling that her grown sons
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 04:31 AM
Oct 2020

think that this country will end if Trump us not reelected.

And they are both well educated. ..... And apparently delusional.

And she thinks Biden will not be good for the country.

It is so hard to see fairly well educated people act so stupid and against their best interests.

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