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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,996 posts)
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:47 PM Oct 2020

Trump's chances hinge on a polling screw-up way worse than 2016

President Donald Trump still has a path to a second term. But it would take a polling debacle that would make 2016 look like a banner year.

According to a series of battleground state polls conducted and released in the week following the last Trump-Biden debate, the president’s chances of winning a second term now require winning states where he still trails with only days to go until voting concludes.

In most of the core swing states, Joe Biden has maintained a stable — though not overwhelming — lead over Trump in polls over the past few months, continuing into the final week of the election. Some of the state polling averages have tightened slightly since the last debate, though Biden remains consistently ahead. In three live-interview polls of Florida all released on Thursday, Biden led Trump by between 3 and 5 points.

In some of the potentially decisive states, like Pennsylvania, the polls would have to be wrong to a significant greater — greater than the errors in 2016 — for Trump to win. The latest polling averages show Biden with a 5-point lead.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-chances-hinge-on-a-polling-screw-up-way-worse-than-2016/ar-BB1axh20?li=BBnb7Kz

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Trump's chances hinge on a polling screw-up way worse than 2016 (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 OP
the polling was NOT screwed and I hate reading this time and time again beachbumbob Oct 2020 #1
Seriously, its old ScratchCat Oct 2020 #8
Post removed Post removed Oct 2020 #9
Please stop we don't need this now kimbutgar Oct 2020 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author LizBeth Oct 2020 #3
I (partially) disagree Eid Ma Clack Shaw Oct 2020 #4
We're looking at record turnout d_b Oct 2020 #5
ON MSNBC, Charles Cook explained that the mistake was under polling non-college educated White men. madaboutharry Oct 2020 #6
Biden is going to win AmericanCanuck Oct 2020 #7

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
8. Seriously, its old
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 01:16 PM
Oct 2020

The national poll showed Clinton winning by 2% +/-, which is what happened.

Polls in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were within the margin of error, and they went to Trump.

The polling was correct, people just don't understand how to interpret margin's of error.

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Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
4. I (partially) disagree
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:51 PM
Oct 2020

Polls could be on the money, but the Trumpdiciary and DeJoy's sloth-like postal service doing all it can to limit mail voting in key states could, combined with the inevitable 1-2% of rejected ballots, be all he needs.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
6. ON MSNBC, Charles Cook explained that the mistake was under polling non-college educated White men.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:53 PM
Oct 2020

Cook is a very serious commentator and he seemed very convinced that the errors made in 2016 polling have been corrected. He also seemed convinced that Biden was going to win and that it was going to look closer to 1980 than 2000.

Stephanie Rhule was interviewing him and she looked so happy after that interview!

I felt better too.

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