USPS admits delivery times are plummeting, says there's no "constitutional right" to timely delivery

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) argued that there is no "constitutional right" to timely mail delivery after its own data showed that on-time delivery times had plummeted ahead of Election Day.

The Department of Justice, which is defending the USPS in a lawsuit brought by New York and other states over changes ordered by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, a top donor to President Donald Trump, argued that the mail slowdown cannot be unlawful because there is no guarantee in the Constitution of timely mail delivery, Bloomberg News reported.

The states' argument "assumes that because the plaintiff states crafted their election laws with the expectation that USPS will provide a certain level of service, they now have a constitutional right to expect that level of service," the DOJ said in a court filing, adding that the Elections Clause of the Constitution "does not shield states from any and all external circumstances that may impact state elections."

The filing came after New York Attorney General Letitia James warned that the USPS slowdown threatened the timely delivery of roughly 7 million ballots.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/usps-admits-delivery-times-plummeting-180354026.html

Government doesn't work. Elect us and we'll prove it. - The GOP

[dem4decades]

1. If we win can we bring charges against Dejoy?

[elleng]

3. We FIRE him, day one.

[Arazi]

12. I think only Trump's appointed Boatd of Governors can fire him

[LiberalFighter]

30. I would strongly encourage Board of Governors members to resign soon.

[dem4decades]

17. Fuck firing him, i want him in jail.

[C_U_L8R]

2. This is kafka-esque levels of corruption

They really need to be in jail for a very long time.

[Eid Ma Clack Shaw]

13. I'm really bummed out by this. I can't see anything but a Trump win given the mail situation..

The corruption is so egregious but they hold all the cards. They have the corrupt post office, the corrupt politicians and the corrupt judiciary.

[Ponietz]

4. Hmm...as if due process wasn't protected by the XIVth Amendment

Or that arbitrary and capricious agency actions weren’t redressable.

[bluestarone]

5. Maybe there should be a look at the delivery times in a red state vs

A Blue state. I bet there is a LOT OF DIFFERENCE!! These fuckers are laughing at the judges decision with Dejoy! NO meat to it! COME ON JUDGE!! lock these fuckers up!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Yes, need red v blue comparison. . . nt

[elleng]

6. Anyone have CONTRACTUAL rights to timely delivery, with the USPS???

[Happy Hoosier]

7. Part of Joe's closing argument:

I'll depoliticize the USPS and let those folks do their jobs.

[Midnightwalk]

8. The immediate problem is the election.

Is everyone you know going to vote or voted?

Criminal conspiracy to suppress the vote? I’d like to see that.

The statement itself is stupidity at its worst. What is the economic impact of unpredictable delivery times you idiot?

[spooky3]

9. So if Dejoy stopped delivery altogether in blue states, no one could

challenge it, because there is no constitutional right to delivery?

This argument is as persuasive as the one that the DOJ should defend Trump from defamation claims because he called an accuser a liar while in office...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. There IS a trust and obligation. DeJoy is a criminal. . . . nt

[Boogiemack]

14. OK One of the top 10 immediate actions the Biden/Harris administration needs to fix. nt

[Sogo]

27. Fix it and put DeJoy in prison.

[ProfessorGAC]

15. So, The Customers Don't Matter?

No wonder Dejoy's pissant logistics company got swallowed up by XPO.
They might actually care about how the customers feel about getting what they pay for.
He clearly doesn't get that.
Alienating customers is awfully bad business.

[RKP5637]

16. So fucken pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[dameatball]

18. I am curious how taking over deliveries from UPS and FedEx in some areas, especially rural, affects

the delivery of what might be called traditional mail. UPS and FedEx farm out geographic areas that would be less profitable for them and the USPS takes on those deliveries. It has to have some affect on the USPS service level while it is also saving the private companies money. Obviously USPS must be profiting from it as well, but at what level?
I know my rural route carrier gets tired of the larger packages. Last week she left a note in my box telling me to pick up two packages at the post office. She was so overloaded she couldn't fit them on the truck. They wouldn't let her come back and make a second run.

[Hekate]

20. USPS does not make a profit. It is not a business. It is a service. It is in the Constitution. nt

[dameatball]

21. I understand that. But they still make a profit on certain types of deliveries that defray their

overall operational costs. My last job was over procurement and distribution at a hospital, including materials management and mail services. The USPS representatives often contacted me trying to get us to switch from UPS and FedEx. We also used a lot of common carrier. There was no reason to switch because 99% of our cargo was inbound, not outbound. Much of it was also state contract with delivery factored in already.
Anyway, the point is, the USPS sales team would not have been trying to sell me me on a "non-profitable" service for them. So you are correct that their mission is not to make a profit, but do not mistake that for them not caring about mitigating their losses by taking on new service. They have people that get paid to sell those services to people like me. Most people never have interactions with that part of USPS but it exists.
I hope that makes sense.

[Hekate]

19. My gods I want to see these people in federal prison

[ucrdem]

22. The amazing thing about Trumpism is that drops all the pretenses

If Trump needs to break the post office to stay in office, he'll break it. If his rallies kill people, that's their problem. If we don't like his pandemic response, tough titty. And so on.

[avebury]

23. I would think that interfering in an election would be a

criminal offense.

[BKDem]

24. It is, of course. But Trump is above the law.

[avebury]

28. But unless he pardons everybody involved, as long as he

gets voted out of office the DOJ can go after everyone he didn't pardon. The statute of limitation will not have run out.

[Sogo]

25. Would like to ask the Trumpsters what they like about a slowed down USPS.

Just got back from PO to send a priority mail two-day packet from Iowa to Denver. Almost always 2 day delivery. I asked the clerk if the delivery was still the same at 2 days. She kind of rolled her eyes and said no, 3-4 days.

We still pay the same amount....

[July]

26. Not a constitutional right, but an obligation within their own rules.

At least, prompt delivery was part of the training when I was a letter carrier years ago. First class mail was supposed to go out as soon as it was sorted to a route.

[chowder66]

29. Perfectly Said "Government doesn't work. Elect us and we'll prove it. - The GOP.".