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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think we will still win this election, but one thing is very clear already
If we don't find a way to appeal to rural voters very fucking soon, we will be in deep shit for future elections to come.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)They're pretty fucking nuts. I've not a clue how to break into their cult mentality.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)fuck rural voters. Their vote counts more than mine thanks to our antiquated system. Maybe I'll care about them when that isn't the case.
Jspur
(578 posts)being radically different than the Democratic party.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)Ignoring them isn't the way to go. It's a hard path to go and it will take years to deprogram them. But if we can show actual result to them, they will come back. Telling them to go to college for the green job isn't going to do it. You have to actually bring the jobs in.
thank you.
IvanMascervesa
(42 posts)Get out of the cities, work remotely, jobs will follow...maybe not in my lifetime though
LakeVermilion
(1,040 posts)they will be flocking to big cities for their health care. In fact, many may be moving to the cities when their farms move into bankruptcy.
They are clinging to a life that is changing.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)Always has been. I can count a dozen fellow Teamsters at my job who refused to vote for Biden because of his gun control proposals.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)JI7
(89,248 posts)But they get scared of socialism easily.
So Democrats have to really fight that.
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)Screw them!
Short of burning crosses and mass-deporting all non-white immigrants, I don't see anyway we could ever possibly appeal to theese drool-dripping, cow-tipping, spray-cheese-eating Cro-Magnons.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)what else can we do to "appeal to them?"
Run a Republican?
I think the problem is we are not meeting what we need to do with people of color.
Our next candidate needs to be a person of color.
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)After all, we are supposed to be the intelligent ones, right?
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)It's the culture war thing. We are not bound by fundamentalist religion, by hidebound boxed-in thinking. They see this as THREATENING.
And they have zero compunction to meet anybody halfway. We're in the bind of doing all of the reaching out and accomodating, which they reject anyway.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I don't see how to do anything there.
spicysista
(1,663 posts)Ballots being thrown out, long lines, and trash voting machines are important tools being used against us. Where would we begin to compromise with folk who support a person such as tRump? What are the things about him and his agenda in which we could adopt to get/win their favor?
No, I'm more interested in expanding the souls to the polls efforts, advocating for automatic voter registration, and appealing to those who find common cause with the democratic platform, but whom do not seem to believe in the benefits of voting.
Anyways, lots of mail in ballots to count in all states. I've linked a few articles talking about the issues, from my perspective. Stay up, mtnsnake.
Mail- in ballot shenanigans:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/11/03/gop-sues-to-throw-out-corrected-mail-in-ballots-in-pennsylvania-montgomery-county/?sh=21c488e7940f
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-order-postal-service-sweep-facilities-undelivered-mail-in-ballots
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/11/03/georgias-absentee-ballot-count-delayed-by-burst-pipe-but-officials-say-results-wont-be-impacted/
Voting machines:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/election-day-2020-voters-battle-lines-malfunctioning-machines-misinformation-some-n1245963
https://www.wsaz.com/2020/10/29/voting-machine-problems-reported-in-cabell-county-days-before-election/
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/carminesabia/2020/11/03/pennsylvania-voter-sounds-the-alarm-over-delayed-poll-opening-voting-machine-issues-n1120004
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)For example, I live in San Antonio. All of the surrounding rural Trump idiots come HERE when their small, rural hospitals cant treat them. They take up OUR hospital beds. Their COVID patients are brought here at the same time they are preaching that COVID doesnt exist.
I think they need to be self-reliant and stop depending on urban areas for health care, education, etc.