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Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:07 AM Nov 2020

Jesus fuck what a shit show

Seems like a fitting end to this election. It appears we knocked out the orange menace, which is ultimately all that matters, but good God America why was it so close?! I think when all is said and done we will say "Trump really wasn't going to win" and I am aware how difficult it is to defeat an incumbent president but this never should have been a narrow Dem victory. A win is a win but man this country is fucked in the head.

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Jesus fuck what a shit show (Original Post) Dr. Jack Nov 2020 OP
This poster disagrees underpants Nov 2020 #1
You're a clever bastard Dr. Jack Nov 2020 #7
I didn't get here on my looks underpants Nov 2020 #8
Thanks for the laugh! Hestia Nov 2020 #23
I honestly can not, and do not, believe it. AleksS Nov 2020 #2
Yeh, right here ScratchCat Nov 2020 #17
If only Trump lost in a Landslide dustyscamp Nov 2020 #24
Many people who didn't vote or didn't choose Trump in 2016 really hate Democrats/Liberals dustyscamp Nov 2020 #21
Yep. Precisely what the good Doc said. Sigh. Alliepoo Nov 2020 #3
We have a truly terrible election system. It isn't even a system. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #4
Exactly! spicysista Nov 2020 #6
I agree Ohioboy Nov 2020 #10
Unfortunately, that was a major part of the signed deal when this nation was founded. dubyadiprecession Nov 2020 #13
It has outlived its purposes, one of which The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #19
If the Democratic Party lost the popular vote, but won the electoral college. dubyadiprecession Nov 2020 #26
"which sucks hard enough to bend light" milestogo Nov 2020 #22
True, it's closer than we thought. spicysista Nov 2020 #5
It is a fairly close EC victory Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #9
It should have been easy to beat THIS incumbent. BlueStater Nov 2020 #11
Remember the talk of Russian interference? Mike Niendorff Nov 2020 #12
Crazy thing is that Biden likely gets crushed without COVID. Ace Rothstein Nov 2020 #14
we likely end up with 49 Senate seats max (& could have as few as 47) plus we went from a projected Celerity Nov 2020 #15
I really don't understand people thinking we will definitely win Beringia Nov 2020 #16
Rose tinted glasses and polls that give us a false sense of security dustyscamp Nov 2020 #25
Took the words right outta my mouth! Wawannabe Nov 2020 #18
What have I missed did they declare Biden the winner? I understand thinking doc03 Nov 2020 #20

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
2. I honestly can not, and do not, believe it.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:10 AM
Nov 2020

I do not believe that after 4 years of this, this many people said: “Heck yah! Sign me up! I didn’t vote for this Trump guy before, but him and his asshole followers really grew on me! I wanna be a part of that!”

ScratchCat

(2,017 posts)
17. Yeh, right here
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:21 AM
Nov 2020

I was telling people for two plus years Trump loses in a landslide because there is no way he picks up millions of voters who didn't vote for him in 2016. I still can't buy it. It makes no sense on any level.

dustyscamp

(2,228 posts)
21. Many people who didn't vote or didn't choose Trump in 2016 really hate Democrats/Liberals
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:27 AM
Nov 2020

They hate that we PCed up their Movies & Games. They hate that we focus on BLM and LGBT. They believe we failed them. They believe the lies. They wanted to make us suffer

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,971 posts)
4. We have a truly terrible election system. It isn't even a system.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:13 AM
Nov 2020

It's not just the Electoral College, which sucks hard enough to bend light, but the whole piecemeal, inconsistent, dumb way of voting and counting votes which is different in every single fucking state! Getting rid of the EC would be a good start, but having 50 different election processes is still stupid and makes no sense.

dubyadiprecession

(5,738 posts)
13. Unfortunately, that was a major part of the signed deal when this nation was founded.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:18 AM
Nov 2020

It’s ‘The United States of America’ not ‘America’.
The electoral college came with that package deal.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,971 posts)
19. It has outlived its purposes, one of which
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:25 AM
Nov 2020

was to ensure, as part of a compromise, that southern states could count their slaves (at 3/5) as part of their population that determined how many electoral votes they would have. In considerable part the EC is a relic of slavery; even now its effect is to give low-population states more voting power than high-population states.

dubyadiprecession

(5,738 posts)
26. If the Democratic Party lost the popular vote, but won the electoral college.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:08 PM
Nov 2020

You can bet the Republicans would gladly get rid it ASAP!

spicysista

(1,663 posts)
5. True, it's closer than we thought.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:14 AM
Nov 2020

However, the electoral college makes it the nail biter scenario we're experiencing. This needs to be reformed.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
11. It should have been easy to beat THIS incumbent.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:17 AM
Nov 2020

He’s not a normal Republican president and normal rules shouldn’t apply to him.

He’s a bigoted, dictator-admiring, racist, hate-spewing, thug-enabling, incompetent, embarrassing, misogynistic imbecile who also happens to be a credibly accused sexual predator. It should have been a no-brainer that this walking freak-show shouldn’t be POTUS. The fact that we’re probably only going to beat him by the skin of our teeth is a goddamn disgrace and a damning indictment of over 40% of America.

Even if he loses, these results have convinced me that this country is in deep trouble and sends me a feeling of utter dread concerning its future.

Mike Niendorff

(3,463 posts)
12. Remember the talk of Russian interference?
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:17 AM
Nov 2020

Yeah, let's look at that.

Especially when it comes to voting machine security.


MDN

Celerity

(43,723 posts)
15. we likely end up with 49 Senate seats max (& could have as few as 47) plus we went from a projected
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:20 AM
Nov 2020

10 to 15 or so seats gained in the House to perhaps 10 lost

so a Biden POTUS is ratfucked from the start

no court nominees will be approved, not SCOTUS, and likely no lower benches

no ACA replacement

no major programmes at all

no environmental protections, minimum wage increase, etc etc unless Joe goes full blast executive orders (and which the SCOTUS may strike down)

obviously no end of the filibuster, no SCOTUS expansion, no lower judiciary expansion

and Biden will get blamed and we could actually LOSE seats in the 2022 Senate midterms, when it looked like we might win 2 to 4 more

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
16. I really don't understand people thinking we will definitely win
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:21 AM
Nov 2020

It seems to me to be deep denial and gives me some insight as to just how much into denial really well intentioned, thoughtful people can be, or just can't call a spade a spade. Also that a large segment of our population has no problem with having a psychopath as a leader.

doc03

(35,437 posts)
20. What have I missed did they declare Biden the winner? I understand thinking
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:27 AM
Nov 2020

positive but it is not over and it doesn't look so good either. So far it is a replay of 2016 we are winning by about 3 million votes again
what an f---d up system.

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