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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI want audits and hand counts in EVERY STATE that went against the polling.
Every race needs to be audited. Until that happens, the country is not safe. Our democracy is going to remain in unbelievable in the eyes of the world.
We owe it to ourselves, and Biden, and all the senators, should not accept defeat until the audits are complete.
There has been way too much gerrymandering with the courts, the votes, and the polls to just sit back and accept this cluster f***.
brooklynite
(94,302 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,576 posts)the vote totals were substantially different from the polls. Not sure how to do that.
brooklynite
(94,302 posts)Polls are a private entity. Polls require a buy in by the people surveyed. Polls require assumptions of turnout by the pollsters.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,576 posts)I don't think an audit is the answer to the poll problem because polls typically interview only about 1,000 people, so how do you know whether any of those 1,000 people even voted, or for whom?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Maraya1969
(22,459 posts)to answer polls. Using people who happen to answer the phone doesn't seem to be cutting it.
That being said how can the polls be so wrong again?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Clearly, they are missing some voters in their polls and/or not detecting less than truthful responses.
Freethinker65
(9,998 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)It was just a month or two ago when U.S. Intelligence announced findings that Russia and maybe even Iran and China, were meddling in our election.
Then the election comes and the results don't match polls, but no one says a word about Russia.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)Media, etc just keep talking about how off the polls were. The polls are our canary in the coal mine! The polls should be a big red flashing warning sign that something is off, way off.
I want a f*cking forensic investigation into whether or not the electronic vote tallies match the paper receipt.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Biden was close to 2016 numbers for Clinton.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)We need to get to answer the question, once and for all, of whether or not votes are being manipulated by outside actors. Im tired of the lack of oversight and NO investigation.
The Mueller Report said they found no evidence votes were changed in 2016, but it goes on to say there was never any forensic investigation into whether or not votes were changed. Well of course youre not going to find evidence if you dont do an investigation!!
BComplex
(8,017 posts)It's time to do a forensic audit of our elections.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)How lame is the US that they dont even investigate? Putin must be shaking his head in amusement at how easy it turns out he can control our election. What country doesnt even LOOK for interference?
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Polls aren't always accurate. You can't demand a recount based on polls.
crimycarny
(1,351 posts)And our intelligence agencies warned about it? They also stated they believed Russia has the capability to change voting tabulations. Based on that intel alone there should be an investigation to see if Russia interfered with the vote. Polls being way off could be a good indicator of where to start first.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... if "just voting" negates suppression
LisaL
(44,972 posts)That didn't exactly happen in many states.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... negate voter suppression.
Getting rid of voter suppression negates voter suppression, there's really no other fact based way to explain how the polling in the US can be so weighted towards republicans for so long in the US
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)More of them voted for him this time than last time
Tribetime
(4,681 posts)This morning it now says 3.6 million were requested ?
ecstatic
(32,641 posts)The attempt to take down the US postal service? The ridiculous Court battles? Trying to force Kanye West onto the ballot? That's just the stuff we know about. God only knows what's happening behind the scenes.
His mishandling of the coronavirus alone should seal his fate. I'm not buying that the majority of Americans want to sign up for.... basically no end in sight to this nightmare.