Rep. Clyburn was always about winning. Criticized at the time in August, but very savvy today.

[empedocles]

'Rep. James Clyburn Says It’s ‘Foolhardy’ To Demand Biden Pick A Black Woman As Vice President'

https://www.bet.com/news/national/2020/08/01/james-clyburn-joe-biden-black-woman-vice-president.html#!

[Rep. Clyburn widely credited with putting Joe Biden over the top].

[This is a very unpopular proposition, among some Dems. Some Dems would have, and came to close to, nominating 'you know who' as 'The Nominee'.

However, it was clear to many, like Pelosi, that 2018 was about winning - winning in the middle. 'Blue Wave' claims aside.
Better to win the middle, than complain about dumbness, etc., afterwards. Dem primary voters did not pick optimum winners for the Senate in 2020 either.

Joe Biden was asked to carry too much. We should have won, with more votes, but we can, listen to the Speaker, and we should still win].

[Sunsky]

1. What's the point here? nt

[empedocles]

2. We can learn from the past, do better now, and so better in the future

[JonLP24]

5. Young voters don't care if someone is African-American, woman

Or an old Jewish socialist. The conservative boomers can't live forever.

[Sunsky]

9. What is the lesson?

I'm finding it hard to get the message here. Clarity is needed.

[Blue_true]

7. The point is you don't demand Fairies and chickens in every pot

when you are trying to avoid getting served a shit sandwich.

[empedocles]

11. Yep

[Blue_true]

13. That is a lesson that too many people on our side seem unable to learn.

My Black family are business people. We have to routinely deal with people that many on DU would simply call racists, the vast majority of those people are not racists, they do harbor regressive views that you have to talk to them about and coach them out of.

[empedocles]

14. Yes

[Boogiemack]

3. He spoke the unspeakable reality at the time.

It was and is closer than it needed to be. When Trump murmured at one of his rallies that Kamala would never be President a shudder went through me because I knew that his message was being received clearly by even many never-trumpets. This has nothing to do with my personal feelings about Kamala. I was almost hoping that she would not hit the campaign trail because it was a constant reminder of who she is and what her position would be. I love her. She is smart and fearless and that makes "them" fear and hate her. Joe took the chance It's sad but true. If they weren't ready for the most qualified candidate in our lifetime because she was a woman, they are not ready for a black woman to be so close to the Presidency. If Biden wins, it will be by the grace of the universe gods.

Just making a hurtful observation.

[empedocles]

10. Yes. Clyburn was speaking the Dem unspeakable, as he certainly could! A November reality.

[A courageous, thoughtful, wise Black veteran who certainly was not against Harris, or black women].

[JonLP24]

4. I don't blame Harris

Harris is a big reason why I voted for Biden. I was more excited for Harris than Clinton's VP pick. Biden won Arizona and I'm an Arizona voter so give Harris credit for winning Arizona.

[Boogiemack]

6. I don't blame Harris either. I blame the people who vote against Biden because

she is on the ticket.

[JonLP24]

8. There are a lot of people that voted for Biden because Harris is on the ticket

It looks like Biden will end up doing slightly better than Hillary Clinton. It is just the way our country is divided right now.

[empedocles]

12. Bllue wave claims not flying very well.