White women INCREASED their support for Trump in 2020.

[StarfishSaver]

So the Women's March, Me-Too, and four years of terrible and dangerous anti-women policies, babies snatched from their mothers and put into cages, a Handmaid's Tale wife installed on the Supreme Court, and blatant, in-our-faces misogyny and racism didn't hurt him with white women at all and, in fact, ticked him up a couple points?

What in the actual blip is wrong with people?

[texasfiddler]

1. My white wife (her name is Karen) didn't. She has empathy though.

[AirmensMom]

2. Not this white woman.

I have never voted for a Republican and will never. One white woman I know who voted for MF45 last time changed to Biden this time. I thought that was encouraging. She was the outlier.

Hopefully Biden pulls this out, but I am deeply disappointed in my fellow Americans, especially the group I am a part of, white women.

[ananda]

5. Or this one, or any of my immediate family and friends!

I won't speak for my fundie rightwing country cousins.

[AirmensMom]

8. Well, and my fundie

rightwing siblings and in-laws.

The in-laws are all super-religious whack jobs who think they'll go to hell for voting for any Democrat. Because, ya know, abortion is murder. (Um ... but ignoring a pandemic isn't I guess.)

[AkFemDem]

3. I'm cynical about those exit polls

From what I’ve seen so far, they focus on in person voters - and we know they skewed much more Trumpian. I’m also guessing those women who were hidden Biden supporters would have been reticent to actually share that in front of their controlling husbands during any exit polling.

I think in general, exit polls may be fairly meaningless this year overall.

[treestar]

10. True, with the unusual number of mail on votes

These types of things shouldn't be considered certain until some more comprehensive study is made.

[MrsCoffee]

13. Very.

[crickets]

62. +1

The numbers may move around as the real data rolls in.

[Miigwech]

4. STRAIGHT white women!

[Freethinker65]

6. It is one exit poll. Seeing how the polls were not so great this time, I question it

I doubt white women want to lose access to reproductive care for themselves and their daughters.

[atreides1]

23. Okay

It isn't reproductive care that they would lose access to...it's a woman's right to choose that those white women who support Trump, are against.

They don't consider abortion as reproductive care, they don't believe that contraception is a form of reproductive care...those white women consider both of those current rights as a form of murder or going against the plan of "God"!!!

[Freethinker65]

51. Neither you, nor I, should make a statement like this

Voters, including white women voters, that vote for Trump are not a homogeneous group.

Some are single issue Right to lifers, some are racist, some (yes some women) would rather not have a woman as Veep, some are extremely wealthy and like their tax cuts, some truly believe Democrats will take away their "rights", some live in Republican bubbles, etc.

It was one poll. Biden won and this white woman, and millions like me, voted for him.

When I mentioned reproductive care, I was alluding to the fact that if/when the ACA goes down in SCOTUS ruling, guarantees of comprehensive policies disappear. Women I know, including conservatives, understood that. Many voted Biden.

[Ace Rothstein]

7. Kind of funny that white men was the only demo Trump did worse with.

Compared to 2016.

[Nexus2]

9. According to what I've heard so did Black men and Latinos

I have no idea. Heck, I don't understand why he has a much as he has in the popular vote and approval rating.

[cwydro]

11. Right on cue.

[SouthernCal_Dem]

14. Why are you clapping at that result?

Seriously?

[cwydro]

15. That's not what I'm clapping at.

Nope.

[StarfishSaver]

26. The term "white women" triggers some people

[Hekate]

85. See post 75

[StarfishSaver]

27. As is this response.

Nice to see you. It's been awhile.

[SouthernCal_Dem]

12. Fuck

That's heartbreaking.

[BeyondGeography]

16. Biden gained and lost votes from somewhere

It will be interesting to see final, credible numbers.

[hlthe2b]

17. I can't explain this any more than I can explain reports of AA men and Latino men moving more

toward Trump.

Let's not disparage any race/gender because one hell of a lot of white women, AA men and Latino men DID NOT support Trump.

[StarfishSaver]

32. I understand why the men have moved

Patriarchy trumps race for some men of color.

[scrabblequeen40]

18. Whites nationwide are behaving like whites in the south

They are the ones who say things like, "Jesus loves all people the same" at church on Sunday, and then, on election day, they pull the lever for Jesse Helms.

And, true to cowards everywhere, they'll deny knowledge of how someone like Jesse keeps getting re-elected to represent Godly people in North Carolina. Having spent half my adult life in the south, I know these people -- I am kin to them.

They'd never admit to supporting or condoning racism and abhorrent treatment of minorities. It's shameful, and they know it. Would never tell you to your face they voted for orange anus. Cowards, all.

[Blue_true]

82. I grew up poor in a southern Black family.

I really didn’t have much contact with Whites other than in school classes, at lunch the Black kids and White kids sat in their racial group. I met White people while in college, but that was in passing, as I was laser focused on classes.

Growing up Black, I had a fundamental sense of what was right and what was wrong and a person either did good or evil in an action, that mindset was pretty much universal among the Black people that I grew up among. That last observation doesn’t mean that some Black people didn’t do wrong and criminal stuff, because some did, but even those people had a tacit acknowledgement of having crossed the line. I knew who I could loan $5 to and who not to trust. When I became a young professional and was suddenly thrust into a pretty much 100% White world, I was shocked and dismayed about how transactional some Whites were about right and wrong and ethics - I had simply never dealt with something like that ever and was very vocal when I saw wrong-doing.

So, the upshot for me is that I am not surprised that Trump draws such rabid support from a good segment of Whites, I actually would have been shocked to see the opposite. The issue goes deeper that what some here on DU see as white nationalism, I believe that there is fundamentally a big difference (relative to Black people) in how some Whites view and deal with the core issues of right, wrong, ethics.

[Dan]

86. +1

[JI7]

19. This might be misleading because if this is people who voted on election day, more people that

supported Trump voted then while the people that voted for Biden did so earlier .

[dalton99a]

30. +1

[crickets]

63. Thank you for pointing this out. nt

[qdouble]

20. Election Day favors Trump. Democrats voted early and by mail more.

[peggysue2]

21. As a white woman, I simply don't get it

I didn't get it when they voted for Trump in 2016. Although then, you could make a lame excuse that the 'give Trump a chance' was in play. But this year? Anyone with an iota of judgment knows who and what Donald Trump is: a sexist, malicious jerk among other things.

I expected all the calls to violence, the indifference to the lost children/babies in cages would have changed minds.

Apparently not.

And I still don't get it.

[no_hypocrisy]

22. How can you tell the specific demographic of white women increased?

Polls? It can't be from voting as each voter's identity is anonymous and not subject to gender/race definition.

[llmart]

28. Thank you!

Let's stopping buying the memes the media wants us to buy as truth.

So far I've read that white women went for Trump, Black men went for Trump, etc. Who the hell voted for Biden then? Kindergarteners?

Get a grip already. I'm a white woman and don't know one white woman who voted for Trump except for one, and I don't know her as a friend (obviously).

[JI7]

37. I think these are exit polls so they asked people who went to vote on election day which WOULD give

Trump higher numbers because more Trump supporters waited until election day to vote.

And this would not include those who voted earlier which was the case with most who voted for Biden .

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

55. Yeah, lots of people did absentee

Makes sense that would be off

[cwydro]

71. Thank you.

And of course, the OP isn’t posting about how black men and Latinos voted.

Or what the demographics are on the Kanye voters...

[usedtobedemgurl]

24. I am white, and I did not.

Many of my friends are white women, and as far as I know, they value people's rights. They have shouted from the roof people needed to vote against the orange blob.

[Bucky]

36. Well, if you reduce people to just their race & gender, you actually aid the cause of discrimination

There are more important things, like human values, compassion for the needy, commitment to an open tolerant society, preservation of the environment for future centuries. These are matters that don't involve race or sex or orientation or ability.

We should pay attention to fanatics and understand the American history of racism. But if we primarily look at race to understand our country, we won't be focusing on what's important about our country.

[usedtobedemgurl]

88. I am sorry, I thought the OP said WHITE and WOMEN...

Increased their support for Trump in 2020 and I addressed that. I will look for the thread which says that... hey, wait a minute....this is the thread that says that!!!

Since I was not the one that started the thread and pointed fingers at white women, perhaps you meant to reply to the OP?

[Bucky]

89. I was responding to (but not disagreeing with) your comments.

I wrote what came to mind after reading what you wrote. I wasn't contradicting your observations, only expanding on the thesis that people are more than their categories.

[usedtobedemgurl]

91. I did not it forth that they were not.

I stated what I know from living in the local kink community, where trans, CDs, LGBTQ and others abound. I understand we are not the norm, but about 90% of those who identify as female, in my community, wanted the monster out.

[Buckeyeblue]

25. Is this being driven by certain regions?

[Bucky]

29. Trump did 3% better among Republican voters. The Lincoln Project was a waste of money

Trump improved his share among black and Latino men. He took an actual majority in Florida this time. The toxicity spread among all categories.

[dalton99a]

38. +1. The Lincoln Project is really a money-making enterprise for Kellyanne's husband et al.

Never forget George Conway is a Federalist Society guy

[Bucky]

41. Yes, he and his consultant buddies make serious bank on the vain hopes of their donors.

Their ads never amounted to anything but character attacks on Trump.

I don't know what the leverage point is with those poor hornswaggled Trump voters, but I could've told them it wasn't the hypocrisy. That's never bothered them.

[lagomorph777]

31. Apalling. This shows how thoroughly the brainwashing machine has twisted them.

I'll bet the majority of those women never even heard about the baby kidnappings, and all the other stuff has been portrayed so it somehow seems good and decent.

We have to get some billionaires and other allies (media geniuses, psychologists, techies), buy up the outlets (Fux, Falsebook, Twit, hate radio), and flip the message. The gullibility of the GOP base is also the GOP's biggest vulnerability. It's time to exploit that vulnerability.

[Marthe48]

33. My county went for impeached traitor 79%

I no longer have qualms about shopping online instead of shopping local. My fellow citizens can kiss my donkey.

[Bucky]

39. Damn, you're living behind enemy lines

That's gotta suck sometimes. That's gotta take courage and backbone to be there. Strength and resilience to you, Marthe

[Marthe48]

46. Haha, thanks!

Washington County Ohio has been an r enclave for as long as I can remember. It used to be surrounded by blue counties, but no more. Athens County was the only blue in southern Ohio. I should move back to Cleveland!

OTOH, there is a great solid minority of Dems, and tG, I am friends with lots of them

[Marthe48]

66. The other side of my Kumbaya coin is

Boycott.

[MaryMagdaline]

34. I'm not at all surprised. I live in Democratic Broward

County, which went 66 per cent for Biden. I am amazed that ANY middle class white women voted for Biden since the majority of white women I know are Trumpsters. Thank God for minorities. It’s sad, though, to think that it’s their suffering that brought them to the Democratic Party.

I am just relieved that we seem to be pulling this out.

My first realization that White women can be awful is the re-election of GWB. I was poll watching in 2004. Mother after mother walked into the booth and voted for the guy who dropped bombs on children. I’ve never trusted white women since then or given AF what they say about peace and love. They’ll vote for the guy who kills other women’s children and then lie about caring for mankind.

[bullwinkle428]

35. Fear and racism are still incredibly effective campaign themes with

many people, as heartbreaking as that clearly is.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

40. I don't know if the exit polls were accurate, BUT...

... I've interacted with MANY white female coworkers who I'm certain voted for Trump.

I'm in an Ohio county that barely voted for Biden this time, probably the result of minority voters here.

[hamsterjill]

42. Not this old white woman

Nor any of my White women friends. And I’m in red ass Texas.

I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life.

[FakeNoose]

43. Your example proves to me why online polls are total BS

They are invitations to lie, and everybody does, sspecially rightwing trolls. But basically everybody lies for online polls. They're not worth the paper they're printed on.

[Bettie]

44. I wish I knew

As a white woman, I want to slap some sense into them.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

47. The CNN exit poll also indicated that old people...

... mostly voted for Trump AGAIN, despite the pandemic and their supposed shift away from Trump.

I really hope that pollsters improve. I like to live in an evidence-based reality, not in an overly-optimistic fantasy world.

I was annoyed by some pre-election "doom sayers" here, such as some posters discounting Ohio as "hopeless", but they turned out to be correct and the pollsters were collectively way off. If the polling had reflected their arguments, it wouldn't have annoyed me.

[Mariana]

53. Looks like most of the Christians voted for him again, too.

He didn't lose a single point with the white Evangelicals, which is no surprise. But he also seems to have got the majority of Christians overall, just like he did in 2016.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

54. Yes, it was mostly the evangelical white Christians...

... that made it close again.

By my calculations, Biden won nearly 60% of the white voters not identified as evangelical. Even that's way too low for my tastes, but it would have resulted in a massive landslide win for Biden if the white evangelicals had magically not voted at all. (I'm even excluding the evangelicals who did vote for Biden/Harris.)

[Me.]

48. Yes They Did

In '16 52% voted for him, this time around 55%. Apparently, the status quo and the devil they know is just fine with them.

[StarfishSaver]

49. Except, in 2016 they claimed they voted for Trump because he WASN'T status quo and he WASN'T

the devil they knew but a completely new "fresh" entity.

So, it's becoming clearer that the reasons they keep giving for continuing to vote for a racist, misogynistic demagogue aren't actually true ... and, in fact, they're voting for him BECAUSE he's those things, not in spite of it.

[dalton99a]

61. They all know exactly what Donald Trump is about.

[Me.]

72. Yes, Just So No "Others" Move Into Their Neighborhoods

I guess any low life scum with blood on his hands is better than looking out their kitchen window and seeing a black neighbor mowing their lawn.

[StarfishSaver]

73. Apparently Trump knew those white suburban housewives better than many people did

And, as I suspected, many of those "nice" women at our kids' soccer game and neighborhood barbecues actually were receptive to his racist fear-mongering.

Many of us weren't and aren't fooled by them and know who and what they are, but others think they couldn't possibly be racist because they don't say the n-word out loud.

[Me.]

81. ...

[CousinIT]

50. Dumbasses voted away their social security (and ours) if the orange scumbucket wins.

How damn dumb is THAT? I guess they don't need THEIR social security but I'm going to need mine!

Eff these jackasses to hell and back. STUPID people.

And I'm related to some of them. ALL OF THEM ARE LIVING ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND VOTING FOR TRUMP!

Can you even grok the stupidity of that? They'd be hurting without SS and if it's cut - AT ALL.

Yet they voted for the sonofabitch who said he'd "terminate" it.

[Sunsky]

52. Sad nt

[Klaralven]

56. Sububan white women voted on the economy

Highlights and analysis from Election Day 2020

NBC News Exit Poll: Despite 'law and order' appeals, white suburban women say economy, not crime, is top issue

With protests around racial inequality and policing occurring in cities across the country this year, many Republican candidates — and especially President Trump — sought to appeal to suburban white women by emphasizing a commitment to law and order. But according to early results from the NBC News Exit Poll of early and Election Day voters, the economy was a far bigger issue in deciding how this group voted for president.

Only 11 percent of suburban white women said that crime was the issue that mattered most to their vote, about the same share who said racial inequality was the most important issue.

When asked about the Black Lives Matter movement and the criminal justice system, more than half of white suburban women said they hold a favorable view of Black Lives Matter, and nearly half said they believe the justice system is unfair to Black people, the poll found.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/election-day-2020-live-updates-n1245892/ncrd1246194#blogHeader

Of course they may be lying to the pollsters...

[RobinA]

68. Interesting

I'm a Biden-voting white woman and I didn't vote on any of those issues. Actually, I am not an issues voter. SS was a big issue for me, but I was voting for Biden anyway. Healthcare the same. I vote for people. Here's what mattered to me in this election enough to sway my vote. Ability to lead, stupidity, vulgarity, honesty, standing overseas, ability to solve problems, understanding of the issues, among others.

But I know woman who voted for Trump and they weren't for all the same reasons as each other. When you mention to someone that Trump did this or that they just say it's fake news. Even stuff that's on camera or he admitted to. It's hopeless.

[Klaralven]

69. If Trump has shown any rational leadership ability re Covid, he would have won big.

[StarfishSaver]

74. Suburban white women SAY they're voting on the economy

Many of us know better ...

[gollygee]

57. White women, especially those married to white men, have a lot of privilege they don't want to lose

A lot of them will fight it kicking and screaming.

I say "especially those married to white men" because I was amazed how much privilege I got, how differently people treated me and how much better the world worked for me, just because I married my husband. I gained a ton of privilege from that. White women might not have thought it through but still know the world is working for them. Or really I should say us. I bet the polls show a higher proportion of the white women who voted from trump are married.

[liberal_mama]

58. I think it's because married white women vote the same as their husbands

I think that's why the polls have been screwed up too. My next door neighbor said she doesn't like Trump, but voted for him because her husband loves Trump. They vote together so she'd probably face his wrath if she voted for Biden.

[dalton99a]

59. The Karens captured on camera were not anomalies.

[Sogo]

60. I think this is one of the main indicators

that the vote was hacked.

I don’t believe it.

[StarfishSaver]

76. Why don't you believe it?

[Sogo]

90. Because there are too many women who have men like that in their lives (abusive bullies),

and they would NEVER vote to have them continue.

[Tom Rinaldo]

64. Even if that statistic proves inaccurate, it still misses the point

After all that this nation has been through since Trump took office, support for him among white women "should" have dropped significantly. Obviously it didn't. Nothing is gained by hiding from an unpleasant reality, especially for those who are determined to fight it. I'm a white man, to be more exact a 71 year old white man, and my demographic group as a whole has been even more shameful on the issue of race. Progress can happen, and in many ways has happened when looked through the lens of multiple generations, but progress sadly has been far too slow.

There are many tens of millions of anti-racist whites in America now. There still needs to be tens of millions more.

[Silver1]

65. I have a hard time believing these numbers.

I look forward to more data about the voting breakdown though! Age, geographic location, etc.

[TheFarseer]

67. It can be explained

Some Christian women might have been hesitant in 2016 but were reassured with his fundy Supreme Court picks and his talk of protecting them from BLM violence.

[Mariana]

70. I'm sure Christianity is a huge factor.

I suspect that an extremely high percentage of the women who voted for Trump are Christians.

[Silver1]

77. Those are my thoughts too.

The handmaid in the Supreme Court gets them bonus points in heaven.

[TheFarseer]

79. I don't know why we talk so much about coronavirus

But ignore the genocide of the unborn. I hear that all the time talking to family. Pray for me. Just kidding

[Silver1]

80. Well, consider yourself saved ...

from the amazing mind shrinking effect of religious righteousness! But you probably already do ...

[Hekate]

84. Try as hard as you can not to prejudge other humans on the basis of color

[SharonAnn]

78. Are these regular voters? Or new voters?

[Hekate]

83. Is that percentages, or raw numbers? Bcs the vote count is up everywhere for all groups...

... so basically we still see the country divided along the same lines as 4 years ago.

The majority of Americans hate Trump’s guts and didn’t vote for him in 2016, either, but the majority of voters in those states Kasich just said we needed to listen more kindly to apparently are just fine with Trump, and they are the ones whose votes weigh most heavily in the Electoral College.

Looked at another way, this country is split so badly along ideological lines it’s like we are two countries. Or conjoined twins where one hates the other & refuses to reconcile, even if it means the death of them both.

I can’t speak for “white women,” except to say none of my friends nor I ever have or would vote for a white nationalist — tho there’s a handful of acquaintances who are single-issue voters that I wonder about now. I don’t know any of the Moms of Portland, but I doubt they went for Trump, either.

[Dan]

87. I think if you wanted an actual poll, an accurate poll

Of how people voted - then they should call people. The most accurate indicator of how a person would vote (I suspect) is: Do they watch FOX news channel.