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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBecause US media did not show you. Wouldn't want people getting any bright ideas, would they.
Last edited Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:06 AM - Edit history (4)
On September 29, the Spanish people surrounded their congress and demanded it step down. The country is 90% in debt (TO WHO!?) and unemployment is 25% or higher (50% for those under 30, via ermasdaughter downthread).
But just previously, they attempted the same thing on September 25.
AoS @AnonOpsSweden
#25S #29S @TomalaTele Video archive http://bit.ly/VfFIjD Must watch for the real story on unfolding #SpanishRevolution #15m #occupy
Retweeted by #pUNkEneMyOfTheState
http://www.tomalatele.tv/web/?tag=25s
Crossauldwan @Crossauldwan
WATCH THIS AND SHOW SOLIDARITY! @JFTAXI: Its very hard to watch this video from the streets of Madrid.
Youtube comment for the video beneath it:
They were police provocateurs buddy wake upp you see the same later in the video dragging off protesters.
The guys with the dark blue hoodies and red flags are provocateurs 0:06 same as 1:36 only here they drag protesters off to the van to get arested.
And they always in the front rows hitting the cops with the red flag pole to intice agression and give them an excuse to charge its all staged by the cops.
So the police did start the agression.
hslot4
The next video of police brutality has been age-restricted on youtube due to obvious police brutality. If it will not show up here, search youtube for
Movimiento 25 Septiembre cargas policiales
youtube channel: francisco garcia molero
Police Beat Young Teenage Girls At Madrid Spain #25s Protest
S25 Spain man paralyzed by riot cops

Michael @_cypherpunks_
Madrid Protests: Police Admit 'Secret' Agents But Deny Provocation (PHOTOS) #25s #26s http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/madrid-protests_n_1916494.html
26s infiltrados de la policia "coño que soy compañero"
Occupy NZ @OccupyNZ
Undercover cop accidentally beaten up by his colleagues. #Madrid #26S #S26
26s infiltrados de la policia "coño que soy compañero"
#S29 Street report from Madrid, Spain
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/25798612
S29 crowd and speakers in Lisbon:
Poland:
S29 Poland

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=363603443724458&set=a.205217742896363.51219.205204719564332&type=1&theater
Lisbon, Portugal:
S29 Lisbon

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=363577440393725&set=a.205217742896363.51219.205204719564332&type=1&theater
Madrid:
S29 Surround the congress madrid

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=510179422343624&set=a.362269433801291.103621.362231420471759&type=1&theater
S29 Madrid sit down at end of protest

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=372468666165845&set=a.205186092894104.52516.204982326247814&type=1&theater
Spain reels at violent tactics by riot police
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/29/spain-riot-police?CMP=twt_gu&fb=optOut
Jayron @Jayron26
PD beat the sh*t out of comrades and leave the remains in the street like meat. pic.twitter.com/xlRQdy1u #OO #Watch29S #OWS #OCHI #OSF #29S
Spain infiltrators

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Edit October 2:
Tim Pool @Timcast
I uploaded a @YouTube video #29S Madrid protest recap
I've found one long sentence in Time Magazine, October 8 2012, "The Mormon Identity", page 14, "World":
"Meanwhile, anti-austerity protests rocked the Spanish capital yet again, as demonstrators marched on the country's parliament building and confronted police, leading to at least 64 people being arrested."
:/
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)Really. It's true. We are wimps next to them.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Give it some time. We'll catch up if things don't turn around.
I'm sure we will be braver if things continue to decline.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)"They"
politicians, TPTB, etc.) are afraid that if we are "allowed" to see the reality of regular citizens of the world that have been crushed by the "modern capitalism" that has destroyed our world, Americans would grow a backbone and stand up to their oppressors.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Wake the hell up, America.
Z_California
(650 posts)I had no idea this was happening.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Through omission or commission. I scanned the Sept. 30 LA Times and did not see a single word about this. I may have missed something... There were graphics of these photos alongside then-current CNN and other US media programs going around FB and Twitter, mocking them viciously.
Check the Facebook links and some of the Twitter addresses in the OP to connect with actual news sources. Peace!
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I had no idea.
K&R
Royal Sloan 09
(406 posts)of the actions of the government against the people and the coverup that is ongoing with the Media Monoply, more sad world news today not reported. Just wow, as Samuel L. Jackson says " Wake the F*uck UP!"
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)K&R.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Way to go Spain and Portugal. Brave people.
PufPuf23
(9,852 posts)The USA has not been a nation of democracy nor fair justice for some time.
+1000
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)The right-wingers in Congress would take out their guns that they defend so desperately.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Like finance and energy need to be broken up in order to once again serve consumers . Right now they are too consolidated and work to avoid true competition. Media corporations only interest is to remain in power so it's in their interest to avoid this story.
Don't worry though this story could well come to a street corner near you if something isn't done soon.
DiverDave
(5,245 posts)and those pics of the cop infiltrators...
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,223 posts)But I guess it's different when they're protesting right-wing governments and the banksters.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)where do you think 'power to the people' came from and why. Governments have too much power over people. Power to kill and maim at the discretion of corporations, banks and the international one percenters. Money and inbred, incestuous power families are at the bottom of all woes on this planet. Solution????? Anyone????????? I didn't think so.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)We saw how Occupy Wall Street fizzled out in one year from lack of support.
Americans don't like being separated from their recliners and remote controls.
We'd prefer to watch the revolution on TV.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)And WELCOME to DU!
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)leftstreet
(40,670 posts)It was conceived by an advertising agency and used to co-opt the anniversary antiwar demonstrations
That it captured the imagination and activity of as many 'real' people as it did - considering its original intent - is amazing and actually a good sign.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)Unfortunately, it works pretty well. 500,000 Americans protested Iraq in NYC before the GOP 2004 convention. The most coverage it got was a live feed on C-SPAN3.
Why would they gamble (and lose btw) by making the demonstrations bigger, hipper, longer lasting, horizontal organized and pointed at Wall Street ?!
leftstreet
(40,670 posts)500k Americans in the NYC streets over Iraq should have just been a start
Sadly, Americans seem to think if they protest once it should 'work'
KoKo
(84,711 posts)continued with weekend Protests and candlelight vigils for almost two years. There were follow up anniversary Demonstrations on the anniversary of Iraq Invasion every year across the country but because United for Peace and Justice and A.N.S.W.E.R. got the permits and and the podium the MSM and even the Dem Blogs got turned off and started dissing the protesters as "radicals."
Anyway...those who are involved already know this...and the rest here don't want to hear it.
leftstreet
(40,670 posts)You're not wrong - there was a massive mobilization of marchers all over the globe. But that marching didn't lead to general strikes or work stoppage or 'free market' interruption...anything that could force a change in policy.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)would be listened to because that's what we believed our Governments were supposed to do.
It was the first wake up call that "peaceful protests" would be ignored. No one at the time thought that they would need to do an economic strike or "free market" interruption. There were petitions delivered to the United Nations. I signed a huge one that was here on DU and the thousands and thousands of signatures in boxes were delivered to UN by Peace Activists.
Now with the economic implosion caused by Banking Deregulation that brought our Western economies to it's knees requiring bail outs of Wall Street Banksters in cahoots with European Banks due to Deregulation of the Multi-national banks it's an Economic Crisis along with endless Wars adding to the distress.
There will be more demonstrations because ordinary people who've had to pay for these Bail Outs and Endless Wars for resources to benefit our large Multi-National Companies and Banks have had enough. The Demonstrations against the Invasions should have been a wake up call that was a warning of what was to come.
That's my thinking on it.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)TBH, I have long suspected that the genesis of the Tea Party was a covert op of some kind(anyone remember CoIntelPro?), although nobody's dug that deep yet. It's origins, and the way OWS has been treated & infiltrated, reminds me all too well of the '60s......
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Seems like you've been hoodwinked by MSM disinfo.
Here, Mother Jones has the real scoop. Micah White over at AdBusters may have helped name it, true, but the real genesis of the movement lies farther back than you might think(hint: there was something called the New York General Assembly):
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-international-origins?page=2
Mother Jones is a genuine left-leaning paper and has a significant amount of credibility, so hopefully you can reconsider your opinions here.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)thread, you will not hear about it in the mainstream media because it directly contradicts what the six or so corporations who own the media want. Same thing as revolution in Spain, Portugal, Greece: out of sight, out of mind.
I'm an Occupier and we're still going strong. On DU, there are those who are outright against it, believing staying within the reform system to be the answer, and they will fight OWS posts in GD etc., so several of us stick to the Occupy Underground sub-forum. Click Topics, Activism, Occupy Underground:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1252
Trust me, much is occurring which you will very rarely hear about in the "media". There are plenty of twitter and facebook channels which will bring you the real news. Because the situation is still the same, and the real issues such as the military industrial complex, wall street reform and punishment, foreclosure moratorium because they've known about illegal robosigning and outright fraud for at least two years, one trillion dollars in student loan debt (and news that the Quebec students just won their 100+ day protest and are now mobilizing to take their struggle all the way against the corrupt Harper regime) are simply not on the ballot.
Is the US media screaming about these things? Same reason you're not hearing about Occupy:

KoKo
(84,711 posts)International Media and Newspapers. You can even get the info from "Democracy Now" and the excellent reporting about OWS over at DISSENTER on Firedoglake and for the real Financial News go to our own DU's "Stock Market Watch" group where there are articles all in one place but from many sources showing what is really going on in our markets here and abroad.
The news is out there for "inquiring minds" who seek it. But, it takes time and effort and it's good to see DU'ers in this thread posting the info that isn't reported by our Corporate MSM here.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)When the Working Class and The Poor realize WE have more in common with each other
than we have in common with the 1% and their employees leading BOTH Parties in Washington,
THEN, we can have change too.
Spain is showing us the way.
Our neighbors in Latin America have also given us a Blue Print for Change.
THEY have successfully wrested their governments away from the Corporatists, the IMF, the World Banks, and their 1%.
----Bolivian Reform President Evo Morales
There IS precedent HERE for this kind of Change.
FDR said much the same thing as Morales in 1944 with his Economic Bill of Rights,
but FDR and THAT Democratic Party are long dead (killed by the DLC "Centrists"
so we have some work to do.
Spread the WORD!
Do NOT go gentle into that Good Night!
I won't!
VIVA Democracy!
I pray we get some here soon!
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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Melinda
(5,465 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)DLevine
(1,791 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)That's the only way we will see this. US CorpMedia sure as hell aren't going to "run with it."
Bozita
(26,955 posts)Mkap
(223 posts)If only more common men and woman stood up for their rights this country and no other country would be getting screwed over by the status quo and the wealthy
annabanana
(52,804 posts)God forbid that our media support the People's Right To Know.
valerief
(53,235 posts)annabanana
(52,804 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)spanone
(141,608 posts)it's a shame.
our media is now a political tool.
defacto7
(14,162 posts)K&R
HCE SuiGeneris
(14,997 posts)Thanks for the effort, and information.
ermasdaughter
(85 posts)I live in Spain...And the situation for young professionals is truly dire.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Thank you. I've updated the OP with your statistic. I am so sorry. In the US, students are beginning to become homeless, but still attend school. It is spreading everywhere. I ask you, who are on the front lines, to please inform us. Solidarity!
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)AMAZING videos! They speak for themselves.
malaise
(296,086 posts)People will not go backwards
vanlassie
(6,248 posts)It's called Listener sponsored media. Send them a few bucks once in a while and imagine what they could do.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Larry Ogg
(1,474 posts)That's the trillion dollar question that most working class people never ask during good times.
We do all the work, and are in debt to a small minority of financial psychopaths (aka Economic Royalty) who never worked an honest day in their miserable fucking lives.
And that's an issue that conservative democrats and republicans alike, will never address.
Meanwhile here in the USA, the best solution we the sheepeople can come up with, is argue over which is better, being hung by a blue rope or a red rope.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Thx for posting!
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)boyedav1969
(115 posts)JPZenger
(6,819 posts)The money is mainly owed to German banks, I believe. The German people don't want to bail out other countries, but the German banks want the bailouts. US banks did not directly invest much in southern European debt, but they have investments in some of the banks that did the investing.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)That is the basis and true face of the bourgeois republic. It is never more true to itself than when it dons black masks and begins swinging clubs at the heads of the unarmed, unemployed and (otherwise) ignored citizenry.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)thanks for posting this.