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(14,149 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,246 posts)Catherine Vincent
(34,489 posts)Just checked your twitter page. Wow...President Obama follows you. 👍🏽
safeinOhio
(32,675 posts)very religious too.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,672 posts)Just like their leader.
My mom is in the cult and I nearly stopped speaking to her.
Mom do you support the abuse of women, no, You support Trump
Mom do you support separating parents from children, no, You support Trump
Mom do you support cheating on your taxes, no, You support Trump
Mom do you support people making fun of people with disabilities (her nephew, my cousin the sweetest kid ever) no, you support Trump
Mom do you support the LGBTQ community (She does ) Yes, well Trump does not and you support trump
Mom do you support Health insurance for people with pre existing conditions (she has a ton) Yes I do proudly, Trump does not and you support Trump
I could go all day, but you get the picture
The disconnect is strong with people.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(2,672 posts)She always has it on and I guess it tells her what to think
Tribetime
(4,694 posts)Only way to be sure votes arent being flipped
Doodley
(9,088 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)The machines didn't help with what they were intended to provide.
They were supposed to make compiling the vote faster, but we're in the 4th day and votes are still being counted.
Somehow, with no immediate results, the earth is still turning on its axis.
We don't need the machines. Toss them out.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)uriel1972
(4,261 posts)Use this opportunity to educate their children and hope they dwindle with age?
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)With Trump gone there wont be as much incentive to show up at the polls. Many are more loyal to Trump than the Republican Party, which could be a problem for them.
Things could get interesting if McConnell stays Senate Leader and gets on Trumps shit list.
qdouble
(891 posts)I guess it's still shocking but not unexpected. We knew that are large amount of the country still supported this wannna be tyrant way before election day
kurtcagle
(1,602 posts)I think there was systemic error caused by touch screen voting machines in Republican-controlled states. Let's say that one in every 33 ballots were flipped from Democrat to Republican internally. That would account for a 3-4% increase in apparent Republican voter count. It's still too high, but this would be consistent with what you saw in polls. I suspect that this has been in place for years now.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)...over time.
BLM
ACAB
Fuck Trump.
Fuck the "populist left."
ansible
(1,718 posts)A nation can't keep existing being so divided like this, people with such radically different ideas of how a society should work won't coexist peacefully anymore. Trump's presidency was finally the point of no return.
Jspur
(578 posts)happening. I think we are more on the verge of having a Soviet Union type of collapse. I see this country falling apart in the next 10-20 years unless serious progressive economic reforms are passed.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)xenophobia, fear of "socialism," etc., play a role, and Trump speaks that language, but we have to be better at drawing more folks to our side.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)Indykatie
(3,696 posts)I've long expected a realignment of the US political system and Trump has hastened the transition. Most of the never Trumpers who also were anti GOP will never have any other viable option to vote for but Dems. The sane Republicans need to realize they've lost control of their party to right wing cultists even after Trump loses.
no_hypocrisy
(46,095 posts)going to be traumatic -- for some Whites.
The Whites no longer have a default superiority which means several things: More Non-Whites living in white neighborhoods. More Non-Whites as mayor and council. More Non-Whites as employers (who have the power to fire Whites). More Non-Whites more prevalent in White families.
Society is changing and it can't be reversed or neutralized. This is not South Africa 30 years ago with apartheid.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Recent trip to western Az was distressing, I'll give it this much credit though:
Hate radio, under the guise of "Christian Broadcasting" kept me awake and angry the last 100 miles in.
How in the hell did, do, they continue to justify all that self-contradictory BS?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This really bothers me. I am lucky that I live in solid blue Massachusetts, probably the bluest state in the union. I can't believe how hateful and racist the rest of our country is. It really makes me sick to my stomach.
arlyellowdog
(866 posts)And this time, unlike us baby boomers. They will not be jerks because the stakes are too high. They actually experience climate change fires, school shootings. They do not discriminate.
RobinA
(9,890 posts)We thought we wouldn't be jerks. Our parents probably thought they wouldn't be jerks. No generation will have or has had a corner on the jerkishness market. Millennials have their own issues. Maybe different from ours due to growing up in different times, but issues.
texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)Easy Peazy! I'm joking, but just slightly. Rural America has been sold such a caricature of Democrats. Why do you think Trump kept talking about toilets, dishwashers and they are coming to take your cows away? We laughed, but that shit works because the ground work has been laid for years from AM radio, Fox and now the internet. I live in a rural county in Texas that went 77% Trump in 2020. There are things that are brought up on DU that make me cringe because I know it is such a hot button issue with rural voters and most urban/suburban people don't even realize it. This issue is cultural. A lot of trump supporters are not evil/racist people. I just think they are ignorant. I am an electrical engineer and I installed solar at my house. I have convinced many skeptical people that renewables are economical. They get a little jealous when I tell them pay off period/savings and how my future Power Wall II will provide backup power during a hurricane. I have actually helped other do it yourself trump supporters install solar and helped with the interconnection agreements. They now have people looking at their systems and I get calls if I could help them. If I had started talking to them about CO2 and feedback loops and global warming they would have closed their minds. They have been programmed. I can't explain it.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Sorry, couldn't resist.
By the way, title is a (slightly twisted) quote from one of my Trumper neighbors.
I agree, most like my ignorant neighbor are not evil/racist. Just astonishingly bamboozled.
pansypoo53219
(20,976 posts)out pornographic mushrooms?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Even more concerning. It's less white than last time.
jayfish
(10,039 posts)maybe a good percentage of those who got duped will come to their senses over the next 4 years. Like a drunk who has to apologise to everyone at work for everything that happened at the Xmas party.
Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)As CA and NY pile on Biden votes, the percentage will drop further.
Johnny2X2X
(19,065 posts)280 million adults in the US and 1/4 of them voted for Trump, the rest of the country despises him.
andym
(5,443 posts)Still, it is a big problem and it indicates that Trump is more popular than the polling which had him at ~42-44%
durablend
(7,460 posts)Like I said in another thread, some of those counties in PA where Trump got 60-70-80+% of the vote are simply out of reach short of whoever we nominate becoming a Republican. They are not interested in our ideals.
ooky
(8,922 posts)is doing. I don't believe 47.7% of the country voted for the pig because they just liked the pig. I'd guess it's more like 25-30% that are racists and selfish really liked the pig. I don't know the answer to winning over the others, but that 15-20% is probably the opportunity band if we can figure out some ways of breaking through. Finding ways to get truth out to them might go a long way though. They have a lot of false beliefs.