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SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:43 AM Nov 2020

Trumpies start a new political party?

The GOP failed Trump and his minions. They are the 'all or nothing' type of voter.

The Trumpies could start thier own political party.

The Dems got started when the Whigs wigged out.
The GOP got started when no party supported abolition.


So why not let the fringe far right start thier own party?

If they can figure out how to play within the Federal & State Election rules & procedures, and that is a big "if".

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Trumpies start a new political party? (Original Post) SmartVoter22 Nov 2020 OP
hmmm handmade34 Nov 2020 #1
God I hope so BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #2
Reasonable conservatives need to start a new party. tRumpj-Republicon party is a lost cause. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #3
That would be great. Then they'll all congregate, get Covid, die in large numbers and Squinch Nov 2020 #4
Your history is off, the Whigs started in the 1830's in opposition to the Democrats & Andrew Jackson Celerity Nov 2020 #5
Beat me to it - PAMod Nov 2020 #15
Sorry about the error SmartVoter22 Nov 2020 #24
Not a bad idea. RocRizzo55 Nov 2020 #6
They could have the Republican Party. David__77 Nov 2020 #7
But the merchandising! LunaSea Nov 2020 #8
And the hatred... PirateRo Nov 2020 #12
Please, let it be so. I think your history is wrong though. Whig collapse brought the Republicans bullimiami Nov 2020 #9
we can only fucking hope they splinter the GOP further beachbumbob Nov 2020 #10
I think there's already a Nazi party PirateRo Nov 2020 #11
REICH not? TigressDem Nov 2020 #13
They'll need an appropriate logo. Something simple and dignified. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2020 #14
The Orange Flotsams Solly Mack Nov 2020 #16
Orange Bloat and The Floaters Celerity Nov 2020 #17
Icky Solly Mack Nov 2020 #19
OMG mnmoderatedem Nov 2020 #27
Here is what is 99% most likely to happen Cosmocat Nov 2020 #18
He will be 78 years old... orwell Nov 2020 #21
yeah, OK Cosmocat Nov 2020 #22
Splitting the vote! Weakening themselves intentionally... I LOVE THE IDEA!! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #20
I doubt it Johnny2X2X Nov 2020 #23
Kinda like the Tea Party? They tried that with sarah palin. Luz Nov 2020 #25
That would be way too good to be true. Brother Mythos Nov 2020 #26
This is a double-edged sword DFW Nov 2020 #28

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
4. That would be great. Then they'll all congregate, get Covid, die in large numbers and
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:50 AM
Nov 2020

the survivors will shoot each other up and eat barbecue till the cholesterol gets them.

I'm usually not like this. Really.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
24. Sorry about the error
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 04:56 AM
Nov 2020

I was doing two things at once, and knew they ended when the GOP started.
I had TV on and might have written Dems, while hearing that word and thinking Civil War GOPs.

 

RocRizzo55

(980 posts)
6. Not a bad idea.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:51 AM
Nov 2020

Most democracies in the world have many more than two parties. It nearly guarantees that one single party will not prevail, and that there must be a coalition of parties whose tenets might be totally different from one another.

bullimiami

(13,094 posts)
9. Please, let it be so. I think your history is wrong though. Whig collapse brought the Republicans
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:55 AM
Nov 2020

Democrats were here long before. They arose from the Democratic-Republican Party.

They were the opposition to the Whigs during the Whigs entire run.



TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
13. REICH not?
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:04 AM
Nov 2020

OR those who want the R the way it used to be, WALK away from it and become Libertarians.

Probably just leave the big red R stain on the sidewalk and embrace survival of the fittest and business first up front.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
18. Here is what is 99% most likely to happen
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:23 AM
Nov 2020

No, they won't start a new party. They easier path is to continue to own the republican party.

SO ... IF we can root his POS ass out of the white house, he will declare his intent to run as a republican in 2024 almost immediately, then do what he did for 8 years with being the ring leader of the birther movement to lead the resistance to JOE.

Make no mistake, right now the overwhelming majority of republicans are full on 45 acolytes. SO, they will hang on his every word. You will see some weak attempts by the party establishment to try to break from him, but it will go the way it went during the 2016 primary, some big words at times, no real action, then endless scumbags like Graham and Cruz who talked a big game kneeling and kissing his ring.

NOW, all of this is likely to hurt them in the 2022 mid terms ...

BUT, he will win the republican nomination and he WILL have a similar turnout for him in 2024 as he had Tuesday.

NOW, he could die or have health issues, or there is that fantastical chance that somehow justice prevails and he is dealt with for all the illegal things he has done, but minus these occurring this is likely what will happen.

NO, he won't try to pass it off to one of his grifting POS spawn, he is FAR too much of raging egomaniac to cede anything to anyone, even his blood.

orwell

(7,773 posts)
21. He will be 78 years old...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:39 AM
Nov 2020

...likely in poorer health, far more addlepated, a convicted felon, and possibly far less rich (unless he starts TrumpTV with Burnett).

He will want to run, but he will have a lot of younger competition using his "TrumpMagic" model AND he will be a loser.

I say go for it Donnie!

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
22. yeah, OK
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:17 AM
Nov 2020

he is 74 NOW, a pussy grabbing, barely coherent fucking Russian asset and 75 million people voted for him and one tweet away from fucking killing people for him ...

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. Splitting the vote! Weakening themselves intentionally... I LOVE THE IDEA!!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 08:37 AM
Nov 2020

Of course I absolutely HATE the idea when "progressives" try to promote their third-party choices here (ie: Greens, Working Family, and other "justice" or "Revolution" orgs.)

But when it comes to the GOP having their own vote-splitters and saboteurs and malcontents breaking-off to form their own lunatic fringe wacko conspiracy-theory party... I'll give an enthusiastic YES to that idea.

All I'm saying is... when they're harming themselves, just remain silent and let them.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
23. I doubt it
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:24 AM
Nov 2020

The Republicans can't win without that voting block, they're going to move to them no matter what.

Luz

(772 posts)
25. Kinda like the Tea Party? They tried that with sarah palin.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:26 AM
Nov 2020

It didn't work then and it wont work this time.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
26. That would be way too good to be true.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:45 AM
Nov 2020

No, the plutocrats, and their corporations, who overwhelmingly fund the Republican Party would never waste their money on a new Trumpist party. Why would they even consider doing so, when they currently outright own the existing, powerful Republican Party?

Or, to think about it another way, of what benefit would a new Trumpist Party be to Rupert Murdoch? And, for that matter, of what benefit would even a new Trumpist media corporation be to Rupert Murdoch?

DFW

(54,379 posts)
28. This is a double-edged sword
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 06:08 AM
Nov 2020

Though it would be nice to split the Republican Party in two, there is a real danger of the crazy wing becoming successful. Instead of the NSDAP (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei), we could end up with a NCALP (National Capitalist American Lunatic Party). They could call themselves "Nashies" from the first two syllables of the long name, just like the old German NSDAP did ("National" in German is pronounced Nah-tsee-oh-nahl).

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