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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:30 PM Nov 2020

Wacky suggestion: Biden should offer to split the cost of the WI recount

I recall reading that the recount would cost the Trump campaign about $3 million, so half of that is probably trivial for the Biden campaign in light of how much they raised. And I think it would be a good PR stunt to demonstrate his commitment to making sure every vote is counted fairly. Offering to chip in for a recount that won't benefit him and could conceivably hurt him (but won't) would make Biden look magnanimous and truly committed to a fair process, and would go a long way to undercut the baseless but sadly somewhat effective (in terms of public perception) lies that are being told about him trying to steal the election. Of course, those lies won't affect the outcome of the election, but they will potentially impact the approval rating he starts out with and the amount of good will he gets from the American people in the beginning.

What do you think?

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Wacky suggestion: Biden should offer to split the cost of the WI recount (Original Post) democrattotheend Nov 2020 OP
Make them pay soothsayer Nov 2020 #1
I think the PR benefit of offering to split it is worth saving them $1.5 million democrattotheend Nov 2020 #5
Forum rules will not allow me to state my true feelings on this post Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #2
'After due and sober consideration, I dissent. ' My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #11
Lol ! OnDoutside Nov 2020 #3
Interesting....and the optics would be great for this country. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #4
Exactly democrattotheend Nov 2020 #8
No they wouldn't BainsBane Nov 2020 #26
OK. nt OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #27
Yeah, let's reward the lying, scheming SOB for his "hail mary" attempts to create "fraud" hlthe2b Nov 2020 #6
A recount doesn't create fraud democrattotheend Nov 2020 #10
I never said it does. But after you go listen to Trump's unhinged traitorous spiel from last night hlthe2b Nov 2020 #17
I think you deserve kudos for "thinking out of the box". n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2020 #7
Have Hunter Biden offer it up, just for sh*ts and giggles elias7 Nov 2020 #9
He could offer to pay with his stake in Burisma. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #12
No consider_this Nov 2020 #13
Yeah no. jcgoldie Nov 2020 #14
. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #15
Not NO, but Billy hell NO! As an old navy buddy used to say. I am thoroughly sick of suggestions niyad Nov 2020 #16
Never StopTheNeoCons Nov 2020 #18
Trump shouldn't be rewarded for his inability to grasp reality Poiuyt Nov 2020 #19
NO Hamlette Nov 2020 #20
Nope. LisaL Nov 2020 #21
I agree it is a wacky idea. You have fallen into the trap. Raven123 Nov 2020 #22
I doubt the people we're trying to impress would be impressed. Chichiri Nov 2020 #23
They are just going to say it shows fraud and that's why Biden would pay for it JI7 Nov 2020 #24
No, he shouldn't help them grift gollygee Nov 2020 #25
Fuck that. Let me also say... LuvLoogie Nov 2020 #28
Soooooo naive! Are we just going allow trump ecstatic Nov 2020 #29
Why chip in? Trump's not going to pay for it anyway. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2020 #30
Fuck no! cp Nov 2020 #31
No LeftInTX Nov 2020 #32
Seems like a way to spend money for nothing. Captain Stern Nov 2020 #33
Oh, hell no! Unless it's money from a 'Monopoly' game. Talitha Nov 2020 #34
Why bother? And also: narcissists love when they get a reaction palustris Nov 2020 #35
No way! StarryNite Nov 2020 #36
No. Sunsky Nov 2020 #37

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
5. I think the PR benefit of offering to split it is worth saving them $1.5 million
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:32 PM
Nov 2020

It would catch the Trump folks off guard, and also kind of rub it in their face how badly they managed their money.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,446 posts)
4. Interesting....and the optics would be great for this country.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:32 PM
Nov 2020

I have total confidence in the results....provided no shenanigans with the ballots counted.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
8. Exactly
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:33 PM
Nov 2020

I think the optics would be great for Biden, and it would catch the Trump campaign off guard and undercut their claims that he's trying to steal the election.

hlthe2b

(102,203 posts)
6. Yeah, let's reward the lying, scheming SOB for his "hail mary" attempts to create "fraud"
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:32 PM
Nov 2020

where none exists.

i.e., "Hell NO!"

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
10. A recount doesn't create fraud
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:36 PM
Nov 2020

A recount is a legitimate, legal process that can help instill confidence in the result. Joining Trump's call for a recount and even offering to split the cost shows Biden has complete confidence in the fairness of the vote and isn't afraid to have it verified. It also makes it harder for Republicans to compare Trump's baseless accusations and frivolous lawsuits to the Gore campaign's post-election challenge in 2000.

hlthe2b

(102,203 posts)
17. I never said it does. But after you go listen to Trump's unhinged traitorous spiel from last night
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:40 PM
Nov 2020

then we can talk about exactly what fraud he WAS trying to create.

I'll wait.... Go ahead. It is archived online from CNN, MSNBC, and all the other groups.

If you still want to HELP him after viewing that then put me on ignore because we have nothing to discuss.

I realize you are well-intentioned, but I find the entire premise self-defeating

consider_this

(2,203 posts)
13. No
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:37 PM
Nov 2020

Trump cultists are the rabid ones who may not want to accept results. Nothing Joes does is going to make them feel differently. Joe has already done enough just via his entire mannerism and approach to convey his wish for fairness.
If *rump and co want to fuss, let them pay.

jcgoldie

(11,627 posts)
14. Yeah no.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:37 PM
Nov 2020

And if you’re really a good sport and the other team is losing without a timeout you should call one for them.

Donald Trumps made of money to hear that asshole talk why on earth would you offer to pay to recount an election you already won for him?!?

niyad

(113,232 posts)
16. Not NO, but Billy hell NO! As an old navy buddy used to say. I am thoroughly sick of suggestions
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:40 PM
Nov 2020

sick of suggestions that we "make nice" or whatever. Those f'n traitors see any such attempt or offer as weakness, and they will exploit it.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
19. Trump shouldn't be rewarded for his inability to grasp reality
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:42 PM
Nov 2020

If his fascist supporting donors want to pay for it, let them.

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
20. NO
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:45 PM
Nov 2020

The votes were counted fairly already. Recount only shift a couple hundred votes. Trump is worth $10B. I donated some of Biden's money and I don't want it spent for something that might (not likely) help the most dangerous man in America.

Raven123

(4,813 posts)
22. I agree it is a wacky idea. You have fallen into the trap.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:46 PM
Nov 2020

Trump will claim Biden agrees Wisconsin’s election process was faulty. Then he will demand something else. It’s circular. Someone needs to send Trump to his room without dinner.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
25. No, he shouldn't help them grift
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:53 PM
Nov 2020

They're only doing this to get contributions from people. It's just to make money - they aren't changing anything. He doesn't need to financially help them.

ecstatic

(32,679 posts)
29. Soooooo naive! Are we just going allow trump
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:58 PM
Nov 2020

to take this election from us?! trump is out there fighting with EVERYTHING he has and our side cannot afford to become complacent.

Biden won, period! Stop the madness!

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
30. Why chip in? Trump's not going to pay for it anyway.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:08 PM
Nov 2020

Wisconsinites should be proud and flattered that they are allowed to pay for the privilege of viewing all those Trump votes again.

There are many many Trump votes in that pile.

Almost half the total votes.

cp

(6,623 posts)
31. Fuck no!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:31 PM
Nov 2020

Threshold--which Republicans set--means Dumpy pays for recount. Wisconsin needs the money up front, or no recount.

No death-cult dolt would even notice if Biden splits the cost.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
33. Seems like a way to spend money for nothing.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:40 PM
Nov 2020

There's not really anything at all to gain for Biden by doing that.

He doesn't have to pay to look like he's truly committed to a fair process, because he actually is committed to a fair process.

The folks that believe he's not aren't going to change their minds if he pays for half a recount, a whole, recount, or buys everybody ice cream.

palustris

(53 posts)
35. Why bother? And also: narcissists love when they get a reaction
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 07:47 PM
Nov 2020

so no, I don't think it's a good idea at all. Best just to ignore him. If they want a recount, let them do it.

No reason to think votes weren't counted correctly. Shelling money to do recount just gives strength to their arguments that there was something wrong in the count. Or that's how they'll say about it.

So it's a horrible idea.

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