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dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 01:55 PM Nov 2020

No. I will not meet you halfway. You must change.

Dear Trump supporter,

Let’s make a deal. I will not accuse you of being evil as Satan or stupid as a bag of rocks if you show you are capable of learning from the experience of the past 4 years. President-Elect Biden is going out of his way to embrace you and offer you a pathway to humanity. I am not feeling so generous. Here’s what I am willing to do:

You cannot support Nazis.
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You cannot support people who objectify or molest women.
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You cannot support crazy people owning a veritable arsenal of military-grade weapons.
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You cannot demand that government should dictate all reproductive decisions in the name of “pro life”.
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You cannot support people who oppose science.
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I could go on and on, but let’s just leave it there. I cannot meet you halfway if you insist on a position of ignorance or intolerance. If that’s the only way you can live, then we are going to have hard times ahead. I sincerely hope that you can learn something by what has transpired over the past 4 years and find a way to make the basic changes in your approach to living in a civilized society. You must change. I hope you do. I will welcome you, fully understanding that we probably won’t agree on everything. But nothing can happen until you commit to moving from the intractable positions you have locked yourself into. You must do that. I cannot do it for you and there is no “halfway” where we can meet.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/7/1993905/-No-I-will-not-meet-you-halfway-You-must-change?detail=emaildkre



More at link expanding on each of the bullet points in bold. Worth a quick read.

Amidst the current discussions of unity, forgiveness, etc., etc., etc., this is how I feel.
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No. I will not meet you halfway. You must change. (Original Post) dixiechiken1 Nov 2020 OP
It's impossible to meet halfway a science denier Ponietz Nov 2020 #1
Today At The Golf Course... ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #4
So much of this. nt Phoenix61 Nov 2020 #2
Well put. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #3
Agreed. cilla4progress Nov 2020 #5
The writer of this article is quite clueless. peacebuzzard Nov 2020 #6
This would be a good start Leith Nov 2020 #7
Damned straight. Jirel Nov 2020 #8
What is the compromise between fascism and democracy? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #9

ProfessorGAC

(65,227 posts)
4. Today At The Golf Course...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:04 PM
Nov 2020

...a guy I know says COVID will all change now that trump got beat.
I asked why & he said "COVID isn't real!"
I just said, sardonically, "OK?"
How do you meet that half way?
I have to partly believe that all the science is wrong? I can't!
The science is what it is, and the numbers are what they are!
You can't find any common ground (other than golf) with somebody like that.
BTW: the guy's wife is a registered nurse!

cilla4progress

(24,782 posts)
5. Agreed.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:12 PM
Nov 2020

Compromising with hostage takers and bullies never works.

I've gotta believe that with all their talent the Biden Harris team already has significant strategy to navigate this! They proved themselves in the campaign to be so, so skilled.

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
6. The writer of this article is quite clueless.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:18 PM
Nov 2020

These folks won't change. But I do believe they will slither away into hiding like before. Their kids will change. the future generations will change. But a big section of the old guard will not. They will hide their feelings while talking to you, but when they gather or think it"s safe to speak their mind they will.

What will happen is: it will diminish. It already is. But the old guard will always vote the way they do, they will not give up their gas guzzlers, they will deny science, they will not believe in a woman's right to their own body; they will not wear masks; and they believe many are beneath them. They only feel safety in numbers like themselves. Today is mourning day for them, a heartfelt sad day. Welcome to the world we lived for 4 years.

They will also roll up those Dump flags, just like I took down my huge Gore signs. With big, woeful sighs I did. The nation was devastated back then, and like now for the Dumpster people. But they will not change anymore than our forward agenda will not change.

But they will slither off, diminished in power.

PS: thanks for posting DixiechickenI, I think the photo of the big Dump flags on the boats will be a relic quite soon.

Leith

(7,813 posts)
7. This would be a good start
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:54 PM
Nov 2020

I have a couple things to add.

1. Do not legislate your religion and force people to follow, believe, or pay attention to whatever your interpretation of religion and morality is.

1a. Follow the Constitution in that there can be no religious test for public office.

Jirel

(2,025 posts)
8. Damned straight.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:20 PM
Nov 2020

It is time for those who claim membership in the peace and justice community to remove the work “peace” from their identity. For now. Crazy uncle Charlie the Trumphumper doesn’t get to come to thanksgiving. The racist, sexist, homophobic, violent spewing of the past 4 years is neither forgiven nor forgotten. The nazis crawling off Facebook to Parler to create the new vision of The Daily Stormer/4Chan is not the same as getting a clue and shutting up. They are simply populating a terrorist venue where the next 9/11 is plotted. I suggest liberals copy them, however, to the extent that they burn their public radio membership cards and turn off NPR, that bastion of comforting whitewash and normalization, and engage in some harder truths in continuing this fight.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,467 posts)
9. What is the compromise between fascism and democracy?
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:00 PM
Nov 2020

The Republican party wants to destroy our government. They have demonstrated this, over and over. How much compromising did they do when they had the House? the Senate? the Executive? The Republican party is an extremist party. It needs to be crushed in its current form and rebuilt from ashes.

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