Was Giulliani this totally nuts when he was mayor of NYC? How did we miss it?? nt

[LAS14]

[Claustrum]

1. He wasn't as outwardly crazy and nuts back then. And 9/11 elevated his status.

Just like COVID elevated a lot of leaders around the globe when they treated COVID with any sense of seriousness.

I still believe Trump would have won in landslide if he shut up in March and let the experts took over. Trump would have gotten all of the credit even though he could have done nothing.

[dv421]

9. I'm not sure why

many didn't call him out for putting the NYC emergency communications center in a building that had already been the target of a terrorist bombing.

I'm still not sure why 9/11 elevated him.

[Claustrum]

11. It's the image of being in control and "caring".

Don't forget, half of the US doesn't vote or care about politics. They don't know the ins and outs of every issue people run on. Their impression simply is formed from those photo ops.

[Me.]

15. I Cringe Every Time The Term America's Mayor Is used

[jrthin]

2. Many of us didn't. It was always in full view

if one wanted to see it, i.e, when he announced on camera that he's getting a divorce from his wife, without telling her first.

[LAS14]

4. Thanks. I did miss that. nt

[Me.]

14. Especially His Racism

and that wife/Judy Nathan thing was just plain icky. I consider it an escape for Donna Hanover. Even his daughter can't stand him.

[jrthin]

17. Bingo!!!!!

[MANative]

3. Not THIS nuts

I've worked in NYC since 1999 and had plenty of criticism of him, but honestly, nowhere near this off the wall.

[Buckeyeblue]

5. His crazy kicked in after he gained peak fame. The downward slide can be rough.

[Loge23]

6. He wasn't so popular before 9-11

He made his bones by walking through the streets of Lower Manhattan after the attacks as if he was "in charge" of the situation.
The media, ever compliant, ran with the image of a tough guy out for revenge - it was all the rage back then.
His term was almost up and many NYers were tired of his BS - until then.

Since then, he has obviously deteriorated mentally. He's simply a demented shell of himself at this point, but the media still adores him.

[janterry]

10. this is what I remember as well

In the beginning I thought he got control of the squeegee folks (there were instances of drivers being intimidated). Some control needed to happen.

But then it started to go off the rails and NYers began to push back. His rep was falling right before 9-11.

[BKDem]

7. No. He had authoritarian tendencies and his personal life was a mess...

...but he passed for something like normal.

Although moving the emergency response center into the World Trade Center was a bonehead move...

[Ace Rothstein]

8. He stepped it up 10 notches after not winning the nomination in 2008.

Many considered him to be the favorite.

[Rice4VP]

12. He has always been a media whore

When he was mayor he was on TV daily

[Me.]

13. Some Didn't

[genxlib]

16. He was showing his authoritarian side back then

He tried to leverage 9/11 to stay in power longer

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/484851-giuliani-asked-for-post-9-11-mayoral-election-to-be-canceled-so-he-could-stay

[JHB]

18. I'll just say two words on this...

"Ferret rant"

[ananda]

19. I don't remember him as nuts back then.

But he sure is now!

[NYC Liberal]

20. Here's a video of him mocking a man with Parkinson's while mayor:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2t3h6p

[Blue Owl]

21. When he was anointed "America's Mayor" it all went to his head, and subsequently, hell

[brush]

22. He was definitely getting there. He was totally full of himself.

And he saw himself as a ladies' man. That's right, the not what one would call an attractive man, Rudy Giuliani openly flaunted the affair he was having with Judith Nathan by parading down Fifth Ave. with her while his wife, Donna Hanover, was still living with their kids in Gracie Mansion, the NYC mayoral residence.

He also appointed his former police bodyguard/driver, Bernard Kerik, NYC Police Commissioner. Kerik was of such sterling character that he later went to prison for tax crimes and lying to Congress. He also was a womanizer.

Rudy has gotten progressively worst since all of that in the '90s. His drinking has too, which probably has much to do with it. IMO he's about crazy as trump. I mean who would pay so little attention to detail in organizing a press conference to explain the president's position on contesting the election that it ended up in a shabby industrial district parking lot instead of the luxury Four Seasons Hotel.

And then to go through with it instead of postponing it until a better venue was arranged.

Just nutso.

[Demsrule86]

23. He was always a piece of shit. Hubs used to work outside of New York at Tarrytown and

ghouliani had a few good days after 9-11...but other than that he is garbage. Hubs was born in the Bronx attended Mt St Michaels and went to Manhattan College.

[ScratchCat]

24. There were many people

Who I wouldn't consider to be "that nuts" who totally and completely lost their minds over a dark-skin Democrat being POTUS for eight years. The same affected Rudy as well I believe.