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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere's one good thing about the polling having been off so much
It was only thinking Biden had that 8-10% lead that made the weeks and months leading up to the election livable for me.
I don't think it made us any less determined to fight hard and vote.
And if I'd known the election was so much closer all that time, I would have been a basket case.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Im sure someone is dissecting disconnects
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I think that a blue tsunami encountered a red wave of cheating, disenfranchisement, ratfuckery, ballot stuffing, voter roll-purging, and any other malfeasance that the Republicans could imagine ... and we still won.
Thats what I see.
-Laelth
caber09
(666 posts)a ton of lost ballots, ballots sitting in post offices and not sent back to board of elections, and ballots arriving late after deadlines to count. They could rig the system based on the same day or early in person voting...but they couldnt figure out the formula to do so with all those mail in ballots coming in.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
They_Live
(3,232 posts)I am curious about the outcome of several close House and Senate races have been affected by all that jazz.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)We could still pull the Tillis seat in NC ... unlikely, but possible. Point being, it looks like we got seriously screwed on down-ballot races. Dont know what we can do about it, but something just aint right.
-Laelth
caber09
(666 posts)the Ratfing, all of it we are talking about...though looks like mail in ballots have/will have saved a few seats that we thought we lost in house...hopefully more than we know up and down ballot too, in 2018 it took weeks to see that we won some seats. Also defund the police hurt down ballot big time too, even in NYC...NYC Council/New York State members saying a ton of Dems in their districts (even in liberal NYC) crossed over down ballot bec of this issue (agreeing with some like Rep Abigail Spanberger) costing some seats, and making alot of races ALOT closer than they shouldve been
Laelth
(32,017 posts)But that was organic. It was never party policy. It was barely embraced by a few on our left wing, but we were punished for it ... SOME ... but not enough to explain the losses we sustained in a number of places where we should have won.
Youre right to note that it takes time to count the votes, and our House losses are likely to be minimal, but we got screwed on a few Senate races, and the stench of those losses continues to clog up my nasal passages.
-Laelth
caber09
(666 posts)Amazing how polls were wrong in 2016, right in 2017, right in 2018, right in 2019, then historically wrong again in 2020
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Please see post #2, supra.
-Laelth
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)Texas here, wasn't necessarily expecting wins over Cornyn and Chip Roy etc., but I really thought it would have been much closer.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)IF we go all-in.
Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)GA or AZ -they thought they had those all wrapped up
Not far off at all - you hit the nail squarely on the head.
FDT!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)...I am one that seeks the structure and mechanisms of purpose, and what continues to bewilder me is how Trumps completely flaw character isnt obvious to 48% of the country, and 66% of my community.
Silent3
(15,210 posts)...and just don't care.
I have no idea what the breakdown is, but both of those things are a factor.
Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,975 posts)Yea, I wouldve been going crazy if I knew it was going to be this close.
unblock
(52,208 posts)a) we know it will be close, so every effort matters and
b) we know we can win, so it's not futile.
knowing the hard work is both necessary and sufficient to win can be really motivating. hopefully we all remember this...