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still_one

(92,187 posts)
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:25 AM Nov 2020

Bloomberg: Republican Senators Marco Rubio and Mitt Romney joined mounting calls for the

Last edited Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:59 AM - Edit history (1)

GSA to ascertain Biden as the president-elect, warning that extended delays in the formal transition of power put the nation’s security at risk

This was reported on Morning Joe this morning



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Bloomberg: Republican Senators Marco Rubio and Mitt Romney joined mounting calls for the (Original Post) still_one Nov 2020 OP
This GSA thing is a political ploy to delay things. honest.abe Nov 2020 #1
+++ still_one Nov 2020 #4
The GSA head doesn't want to go against the Trump regime's party line Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2020 #32
Not for long, thankfully. January 20 at the outside. Then out on her butt with a pink slip. PatrickforO Nov 2020 #41
Then the Biden team must sue to get a judge to instruct her to do her job. honest.abe Nov 2020 #45
Saw a headline on CNN, that Biden is preparing legal action. Likely that's what they meant. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #47
Yep. I think that is a very good idea and should resolve the matter. honest.abe Nov 2020 #48
it's pandering to Trump Humpers Skittles Nov 2020 #57
republicans no longer care about national security spanone Nov 2020 #2
They don't care about trump. Just money and power mucifer Nov 2020 #3
The Rethugs want that voting base preserved, protected, and fully intact,... magicarpet Nov 2020 #7
Maybe just a bit more than that. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #46
Interesting Rubio said this obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #5
I'm wondering what's in it for him. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #8
Yup obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #16
2022 is what Best_man23 Nov 2020 #18
I'm confused? robbob Nov 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author robbob Nov 2020 #21
setting himself up for the party's post Trump pivot Amishman Nov 2020 #25
Has to be at least a big factor. He's seemingly banking on a Hortensis Nov 2020 #43
He wants to retain some semblance of political career after this is over. Zoonart Nov 2020 #31
This is what was reported on Morning Joe this morning still_one Nov 2020 #12
I think he is playing both sides. He doesn't want to be too associated with the crazy JI7 Nov 2020 #13
Let's call it like it is Eid Ma Clack Shaw Nov 2020 #14
Marco licks his finger to find out which why the wind is blowing. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #53
This is my SO's opinion, too obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #17
I agree, he is trying to thread the needle. chriscan64 Nov 2020 #28
Must have been my two calls then. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2020 #49
hahahaha obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #51
You might like an analysis of Rubio from the Nov 2 New Yorker, in which his new ideas about ancianita Nov 2020 #50
Trump sycophants need to be hauled before the House for obstruction. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #6
It wasn't about Democracy. It was always about winning and holding power. Ford_Prefect Nov 2020 #30
WOW Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #9
Seriously soothsayer Nov 2020 #10
Rubio's comment: Princess Turandot Nov 2020 #11
Based on the wording of this tweet M_Demo_M Nov 2020 #19
Wimpy Rubio playing both sides of the street RVN VET71 Nov 2020 #29
Well, the people in his district anyway, or rather a majority of them. Ligyron Nov 2020 #40
Nah. He's a Senator so the entire state of Florida is on the hook here. RVN VET71 Nov 2020 #58
He still remembers: wolfie001 Nov 2020 #15
What do you get when you add a Romney and a Rubio? Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2020 #20
You're being generous... robbob Nov 2020 #23
Romney's impeachment trial vote gave him 1/2 a spine. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2020 #27
+10 Raster Nov 2020 #26
First two rats jumping ship. Tough shit, there no where to go. Autumn Nov 2020 #24
Rubio? BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #33
That's gotta sting a little Roland99 Nov 2020 #34
I guess that they're just not seeing the supposedly massive evidence of voter fraud Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #35
McConnell doesn't see it, either obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #37
I'm not convinced he's a true believer Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #38
Romney has known that the Republican future is a moderate party and not a bat-shit crazy party LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #36
This is just Trump being his usual sour-puss piss-ant sore loser self. vlyons Nov 2020 #39
Somebody on team traitor figured out a delay is good for one reason if nothing else. Ligyron Nov 2020 #42
Classic GOP tactic: obstruct, obstruct, obstruct, then Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #55
It's a stall to gum up the works of Biden's transition teams. Texin Nov 2020 #44
Murphy is following orders. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #52
Rubio is trying to cover his ass for 2022 peggysue2 Nov 2020 #54
I'm shocked! TY, still_one! Cha Nov 2020 #56

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
1. This GSA thing is a political ploy to delay things.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:32 AM
Nov 2020

There is more than enough voting data showing Biden is the clear winner. This is nothing like 2000. That election was decided by a few hundred votes in a single state. We are talking about tens of thousands of votes leads in multiple states that has decided this election. If this makes it to any court with an unbiased judge, she will be forced to make the call.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
32. The GSA head doesn't want to go against the Trump regime's party line
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:17 AM
Nov 2020

Which is that the election is still in doubt. I believe that she wants to keep her job.

PatrickforO

(14,572 posts)
41. Not for long, thankfully. January 20 at the outside. Then out on her butt with a pink slip.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:48 AM
Nov 2020

And, maybe with any luck, there will be eventual charges, a trial, and prison time.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
45. Then the Biden team must sue to get a judge to instruct her to do her job.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:58 AM
Nov 2020

There is no legitimate reason for her to not sign off on this.

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
7. The Rethugs want that voting base preserved, protected, and fully intact,...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:50 AM
Nov 2020

... for future elections down the road.

jaxexpat

(6,820 posts)
46. Maybe just a bit more than that.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:59 AM
Nov 2020

It's becoming all too clear that there are powerful republicans who want the governing structure changed, molded if you will, to ensure their reign. Denying the validity of normal behavior validates their claim as the sole, ultimate and undeniable rulers of the country. We are actually at that point NOW. Beyond speculation about what they can or want to do. It is time to recognize exactly what they're doing.
A sobering acknowledgement of what our eyes are seeing can lead to no other conclusion but that they are implementing their plot to take over the country.

Sorry gentle, hopeful, fellow citizens but THIS is what the second amendment was for: To ensure there was a well regulated militia to maintain the constitutional government against usurpers. I just hope our gamble, an aberration to the constitution, to maintain such a huge standing army doesn't backfire. We'll know we've finally lost when armored checkpoints become common.

War on terror my ass. It was always a war against the ability of common people to self govern. Incremental domination of the details of people's basic democratic rights. Voting right requirements: matching signatures, proof of place of residence, phot ID, paperless/proof-less balloting. Standing in line, hardly any voter would have been surprised if some un-credentialed RW nut job were allowed to challenge their right to vote. I know I wasn't the only one who had mentally prepared my outraged retort.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
5. Interesting Rubio said this
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:48 AM
Nov 2020

I called his office twice to tell him to congratulate Biden. I doubt that's why he said it, of course, but I am wondering what heat he's getting, and from who.

Best_man23

(4,898 posts)
18. 2022 is what
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:12 AM
Nov 2020

Senator (Cheap as an) AR-15 is up for re-election this next cycle, and he needs to demonstrate sufficient bootlicking loyalty to tRump to satisfy the Y'all Qaeda.

robbob

(3,528 posts)
22. I'm confused?
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:26 AM
Nov 2020

Or maybe you are? The OP says Rubio is joining Romney taking a stand AGAINST tRump. I hate the little weasel as much as anyone, but I’ll give him props this one time...

Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #8)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. Has to be at least a big factor. He's seemingly banking on a
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:52 AM
Nov 2020

post-Trump retrenching by conservatives uneasy about where the crazy right has been taking them. Not-so-amusing considering that in 2015-16 he and The Anointed One (Cruz) were considered the most extreme candidates in a what had become a hard-core to far-right Republican field.

Zoonart

(11,860 posts)
31. He wants to retain some semblance of political career after this is over.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:04 AM
Nov 2020

He probably wants to run for president.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
13. I think he is playing both sides. He doesn't want to be too associated with the crazy
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:01 AM
Nov 2020

but he also doesn't want to lose support for any possible future campaigns.

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
14. Let's call it like it is
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:03 AM
Nov 2020

Rubio is a complete fucking coward. As snivelling a twerp as has ever been elected to the United States Senate.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
53. Marco licks his finger to find out which why the wind is blowing.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:24 AM
Nov 2020

But he inserts his finger into one of his favorite orifices instead.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
17. This is my SO's opinion, too
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:11 AM
Nov 2020

And, I tend to agree with it. It is just surprising Marco didn't wait for 15 other Senators to say it first.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
28. I agree, he is trying to thread the needle.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:43 AM
Nov 2020

He wants to retain the rabid base while adding a few votes from disaffected republicans and independents who voted against the Trump craziness. He will find out that the base will see his one foot on the other side of the fence as a total betrayal, and he will join the legion of the purged.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
50. You might like an analysis of Rubio from the Nov 2 New Yorker, in which his new ideas about
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:17 AM
Nov 2020

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the party and "social capitalism" are examined. He's quoted, so I think we'd better take a look at what Rubio and Romney have planned for the party.

Key camps examined in the article refer to camps of influence about what Republicans will be without their "donald platform."

... there are three competing predictions about the future of the Party over the coming years. Let’s call them the Remnant, Restoration, and Reversal scenarios


https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/02/the-republican-identity-crisis-after-trump

The gist of the 11 pg article starts with the topic sentence and paragraph,
"
Donald Trump is far too bizarre to be precisely replicable as a model for the generic Republican of the future. That raises the question of where the Republican Party will go after he leaves office. The jockeying for the 2024 Republican nomination is already well under way. Did Trump’s ascension represent a significant change in the Party’s orientation, and, if so, will the change be temporary or lasting?


Our entire approach toward 2024 should be "know thy enemy." Because the Republican Party without Trump might look as if it's got a whole new playbook, but my bet is that he will call in ideas, and they will hybridize into something that used to be our party. Because bottom line they need to expand their base if they can't win as a minority in key govt branches.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
6. Trump sycophants need to be hauled before the House for obstruction.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:50 AM
Nov 2020

All of this needs to be used against Republicans in the Georgia runoffs. They obviously care nothing for democracy. They don’t even want to govern. All they want to do is win and then reward their wealthy donors with tax cuts.

Ford_Prefect

(7,895 posts)
30. It wasn't about Democracy. It was always about winning and holding power.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:59 AM
Nov 2020

The GOP at any evel has only one goal and no moral center at all. Whatever grants them the most power to keep us down is the goal.

When the Tea Party rose up it was the end of the Conservative movement. They have no relevance, and no defensible morality because their logical outcome is power for its own sake: Trumpism.

M_Demo_M

(158 posts)
19. Based on the wording of this tweet
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:12 AM
Nov 2020

I'd say he's trying to have it both ways. Trying to seem reasonable without ticking off the MagaPooPoos

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
29. Wimpy Rubio playing both sides of the street
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:51 AM
Nov 2020

I guess he's got a Senate seat for life, but it's clearly a waste of space. There is no principal this man will not compromise of desert, but if that's what the voters in Florida want -- and it pretty much has been their story for decades -- that's what they'll get.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
58. Nah. He's a Senator so the entire state of Florida is on the hook here.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:50 AM
Nov 2020

(My God, Florida! Rubio and Scott are your Senators! What in the holy hell is wrong with you people?)

(And Ron DeSantis is the guy who stole the Governor's seat. The mind is beyond the boggle point.)

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
27. Romney's impeachment trial vote gave him 1/2 a spine.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:41 AM
Nov 2020

Marco occasionally says the right thing but never follows through on it, so that is at the very most 1/4 spine.

Susan Collins hasn’t found the remaining 1/4 of the collective spine just yet, but has expressed her worry and concern that it all hasn’t fallen into place just yet, so that’s that.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
35. I guess that they're just not seeing the supposedly massive evidence of voter fraud
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:22 AM
Nov 2020

that Trump or McConnell are. Glad to see that not all Republicans are jumping on this political suicide pact.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
37. McConnell doesn't see it, either
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:34 AM
Nov 2020

He wants to stay in charge of the Senate. That's the only reason he is doing this.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
38. I'm not convinced he's a true believer
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:40 AM
Nov 2020

but he's enabling the Orange Tyrant's delusions, so IMHO he's just as bad.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
36. Romney has known that the Republican future is a moderate party and not a bat-shit crazy party
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:32 AM
Nov 2020

of Trump/Putin. Maybe Rubio is moving to that wing of the party.

Much like what happened with the Rockefeller - Goldwater split.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
39. This is just Trump being his usual sour-puss piss-ant sore loser self.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:42 AM
Nov 2020

He has to hurt everybody, because his ego has been wounded. Has to lash out and make us all know that he's still the boss. Well Donny, here's a clue -- a little ego reduction is good for the soul. Good for my soul; good for his soul; good for everyone.

It would be so much easier for him and for us if he just bowed out gracefully and let go. This my friends is a Buddhist lesson in how attachment and craving are the roots of suffering.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
42. Somebody on team traitor figured out a delay is good for one reason if nothing else.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:51 AM
Nov 2020

That would be: the longer the resources are delayed. the harder it makes it for Joe and Kamala's transition and the worse they'll look right out of the box. RW press will scream incompetence never mentioning the delay in them getting those much needed resources.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
55. Classic GOP tactic: obstruct, obstruct, obstruct, then
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

denounce those you obstructed for getting nothing done.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
44. It's a stall to gum up the works of Biden's transition teams.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:53 AM
Nov 2020

It's also a sop by lickspittles to mollycoddle and fluff Hair Fuhrer.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
52. Murphy is following orders.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:20 AM
Nov 2020

She is not allowed to think for herself. That's above her pay grade, according to Trump. So we'll have to watch as a Trump lackey gets pummeled by the press and she gets predictably roasted and hung up to dry. ETTD.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
54. Rubio is trying to cover his ass for 2022
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:26 AM
Nov 2020

The Lincoln Project has already given Rubio a shoutout that he's on their hit list, come hell or high-water. Romney showed half a spine during the impeachment vote and has congratulated Biden on his presidential win.

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