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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy hasn't the AP called Georgia for Biden? He is up 14K and not many ballots left to count.
A recount is not going to change the total by more than a few hundred votes in either direction. Time to make the call AP.
Jirel
(2,018 posts)Because of that, they dont call it.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Electoral research conducted by the AP found there have been at least 31 statewide recounts since 2000. Three of those changed the outcome of the election. The initial margins in those races were 137 votes, 215 votes and 261 votes.
Among all 31 recounts, the largest shift in results was 0.1%, in the 2006 race for Vermonts Auditor of Accounts. This was a low turnout election in which the initial results had one candidate winning by 137 votes. The candidate eventually lost by 102 votes, for a swing of 239 votes.
The average shift in the margin between the top two candidates was 0.019 percentage points.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2020/11/09/explainer-georgia-north-carolina-trump-biden-associated-press-race-calls
Dem2
(8,168 posts)They're being extremely weak-kneed in this situation.
onenote
(42,700 posts)It's not something they just made up.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)2naSalit
(86,586 posts)An attempt to avoid a lot of legal wrangling that is expected in coming s=weeks since there are two crucial runoffs in Jan. This SOS has a heavy burden as the whole world is focusing on him and his ability to handle it without a lot of contention. It is the best he can do to satisfy as many stakeholders as possible and that is the most he can do. We all know the result, we just have to wait to make it official, I'm good with that.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)when the legal certification is due. I guess they have to count all the ballots that are still coming in up until that time.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)https://www.onlineathens.com/news/20201105/when-will-georgia-be-called-for-joe-biden-or-donald-trump
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,061 posts)It should be called, then it sounds like a hand recount will take place, still shouldn't stop the networks from calling it. They called MI.
triron
(22,001 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)onenote
(42,700 posts)NCDem47
(2,248 posts)In all seriousness, for the reasons the previous posters said.
Chainfire
(17,536 posts)I don't think Trump can overcome the deficit, but it is not beyond the realm of possibility. I don't think that there is any evil intent, it is just at this point, nobody wants to be wrong.
triron
(22,001 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,979 posts)unless the Republicans rig the recount (which they wont). Bidens ahead by way too much. If Trump won the recount, it would imply the Democrats committed election fraud. And that didnt happen, obviously.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)and no recount in modern history has reversed a margin of 14,000 votes.
The calls should be made on the counted votes, not some vague threat of future legal action. Given the current margin, it is impossible for Trump to cover the 14,000 vote spread. Like, living on the surface of the sun impossible.
Bradshaw3
(7,517 posts)It would really amp up the pressure on repubs to admit it's over. Not drumpf but repub officials.
Also what's going on in GA is not an official recount. It is called an audit and was pre-planned by law for a statewide race. They chose to use the presidential race,
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,517 posts)They and Faux did that several days ago. I was talking about the rest of the news organizations to make it unanimous. These things gain a momentum of their own, and those two states back-to-back would give the faint of heart repubs no more cover.
And there won't be a recount in AZ. Biden is well over the threshold.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)recount but Georgia's Rep0ublicans are changing rules.
onenote
(42,700 posts)It's not a new rule just for Trump.
coti
(4,612 posts)and it shouldn't stop them. You assume the validity of the figures you have, even if close, until proved otherwise, lest you enable a delaying tactic with very long odds of success. They're more afraid of Trump than they care about their responsibility to democracy.