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AOC - Update: Holy cow - we surged to $280k for the GA grassroots last night! (Original Post) melman Nov 2020 OP
Great work on behalf of Democrats! klook Nov 2020 #1
K/R progressoid Nov 2020 #2
Woo Hoo! Blue Owl Nov 2020 #3
Is all of that $280K going to the two Democratic Senators for their runoff campaigns? George II Nov 2020 #4
If you look at the post, the organizations this money Bettie Nov 2020 #5
I won't donate...maybe all the money is spent on GA...hope so. But I will donate at Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #6
So the contributions go through ActBlue, who takes their cut and, if done with a credit card.... George II Nov 2020 #13
So you're saying it's bad to donate to Fair Fight melman Nov 2020 #14
It is, isn't it? Bettie Nov 2020 #15
Except that no one said what he's claiming anyone said. George II Nov 2020 #18
Oh, but you very clearly did melman Nov 2020 #22
No I did not, and you saying that I said something that I didn't is downright insulting.... George II Nov 2020 #25
Who said that? If someone wants to donate to Fair Fight they can and should and will.... George II Nov 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author melman Nov 2020 #24
Odd thing for you to infer, as it was never implied. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #26
I donated to the Biden campaign several times Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #23
No, but if someone gives $10 to Biden's or any other candidate's campaigns, they only get $9.60.... George II Nov 2020 #27
ActBlue is a nonprofit organization Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #29
Yes. That's not such a bad thing but if people can do it it's recommended that they give directly. George II Nov 2020 #30
But both campaigns are using ActBlue too. Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #32
I don't know. I will contribute on DU. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #7
donate directly to their campaigns on their websites yellowdogintexas Nov 2020 #11
Either one would work. I like Omaha Steve and tend to do in house donations...had no money until Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #12
That's the way to do it or, better yet - send it directly to them via check. George II Nov 2020 #17
I lulz'd KG Nov 2020 #9
Good question. In the past, I've seen donation requests being made by high-profile politicians... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #10
K&R! Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2020 #8
Butter. n/t theaocp Nov 2020 #19
bravo to AOC for using her platform to raise funds for the organizations doing the work in georgia fishwax Nov 2020 #20
Thanks for this melman... tonedevil Nov 2020 #21
AOC is using her platform to raise money for that race. MoonlitKnight Nov 2020 #28
That's great! We need all the help we can get down here in Georgia! 🔵🗳🍑🇺🇸 CottonBear Nov 2020 #31
How is this post controversial? I can only see a third of the responses. demmiblue Nov 2020 #33
anything AOC draws a crowd nt Celerity Nov 2020 #35
280 grand...let's keep going to help Stacey in Georgia!!!! questionseverything Nov 2020 #34

Bettie

(16,138 posts)
5. If you look at the post, the organizations this money
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:43 PM
Nov 2020

is going to is right on it. They are all working for those senate races in GA.

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
6. I won't donate...maybe all the money is spent on GA...hope so. But I will donate at
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:03 PM
Nov 2020

DU I know exactly where that money goes. I am donating to the candidates.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. So the contributions go through ActBlue, who takes their cut and, if done with a credit card....
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:53 PM
Nov 2020

...the credit card company (I thought they were supposed to be demons?) takes their cut*.

Then they get divvied up between the four, five, or six different organizations - each with their one administrative and overhead costs.

Spitballing it, perhaps $250-260K actually goes to the work of those organizations.

Then we have the work that the organizations will wind up doing. How much of that will go toward actually helping Warnock or Ossoff? Will they be doing what the two campaigns need or is it duplicate work?

As for me, I prefer contributing directly to campaigns and cut out the middle man and organizations that might not be concentrated on the efforts that Warnock and Ossoff need or want.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
22. Oh, but you very clearly did
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:38 PM
Nov 2020

You said people should donate to candidates directly because "these organizations" might not be doing the right things.

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. No I did not, and you saying that I said something that I didn't is downright insulting....
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

....and offensive.

THIS is what I said, nothing like what you're accusing me of saying.

As for me, I prefer contributing directly to campaigns and cut out the middle man and organizations that might not be concentrated on the efforts that Warnock and Ossoff need or want.


Please, if you want to "quote" me, use my EXACT quote! You might want to reread my post, understand what I really said, and apologize. I won't hold my breath.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Who said that? If someone wants to donate to Fair Fight they can and should and will....
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 04:14 PM
Nov 2020

I may just do that myself because that goes directly to Stacey Abrams' effort to get people registered to vote and other positive voting issues in Georgia.

Accusing me of saying it's bad to donate to them is, in your words, "an interesting take" and in my words, insulting.

Response to George II (Reply #16)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
26. Odd thing for you to infer, as it was never implied.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

That's an interesting take, indeed. But not inconsistent, given what we read...

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
23. I donated to the Biden campaign several times
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:40 PM
Nov 2020

and they used Act Blue too. Are you saying that the Biden campaign did something wrong by using them?

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. No, but if someone gives $10 to Biden's or any other candidate's campaigns, they only get $9.60....
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:50 PM
Nov 2020

I've used ActBlue myself because it's convenient. I contributed to Biden's campaign 15 times, but each time I give a few bucks more than I normally would have so that they get what I intended to give to them.

On the other hand, if someone wants the full amount to go to the campaign, a check is a much better way of doing it, although there is a few days' delay.

Plus, giving directly to the campaign, either by check or via ActBlue, they don't have to override a pre-determined group of organizations that will "split" the contribution.

George II

(67,782 posts)
30. Yes. That's not such a bad thing but if people can do it it's recommended that they give directly.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:55 PM
Nov 2020
https://support.actblue.com/donors/contributions/do-you-charge-a-fee-for-contributions/

We pass along a 3.95% processing fee on contributions to the groups using our platform.

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
7. I don't know. I will contribute on DU.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:04 PM
Nov 2020

Glad money is being raised... some of the comments on the thread were interesting. I want every penny to go to the candidates.

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
12. Either one would work. I like Omaha Steve and tend to do in house donations...had no money until
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:47 PM
Nov 2020

recently as hubs and I were unemployed. Hubs got a good job...so we are OK...rough out there.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. Good question. In the past, I've seen donation requests being made by high-profile politicians...
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:13 PM
Nov 2020

Good question. In the past, I've seen donation requests being made by high-profile politicians... but if you looked carefully and read all the small print, it turned out that the donation was being split in such a way that not ALL of it went directly to the headlined candidates or cause. Most of it did go toward the intended recipient, but the whole thing just hit me wrong. I thought it was a bit unseemly that ANY amount would be diverted. Like a loan-shark's vig, or an Ebay commission, or a PayPal transaction fee. Yuk!

All I'm trying to say is that it's just impossible to know for sure where a donation goes, and how it's handled and divided. That's why I'll always donate DIRECTLY to whatever candidate or group I'm supporting. I just don't want to take a chance with third-party collectors. Why would I want to contribute to their overhead costs?

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
20. bravo to AOC for using her platform to raise funds for the organizations doing the work in georgia
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:08 PM
Nov 2020

It's been thanks to the work of these organizations (Fair Fight, most notably) that Biden won Georgia and we're within striking distance of controlling the senate.

Raising funds for these organizations is a worthy use of one's time and social capital.

Donating to these organizations is a worthy use of one's money, if you've got it to spare.

Donating to the campaigns directly is also a worthy use of one's money, if you've got it to spare.

(Complaining about a democrat raising funds for these organizations doesn't strike me as a worthy use of one's time, but YMMV.)

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
21. Thanks for this melman...
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nov 2020

I am astounded, but never surprised by the vitriol that is unleashed when you post anything about AOC.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
28. AOC is using her platform to raise money for that race.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 05:51 PM
Nov 2020

Good for her. It should generate donations that would not have happened otherwise.

Most of us here know how and who to donate directly. We can do so.

If you don’t like credit card processing fees then send a check. But there is overhead sending a check.

demmiblue

(36,907 posts)
33. How is this post controversial? I can only see a third of the responses.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:02 PM
Nov 2020


Apparently, some people need a new hobby.
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