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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 02:52 AM Nov 2020

Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires Exit Country Music Association After 2020 CMA Didn't Honor John Prine

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They've returned their membership cards after Prine, Jerry Jeff Walker, and Billy Joe Shaver were snubbed. Sturgill Simpson and Margo Price offered scathing criticisms, as well.

By Evan Minsker
November 13, 2020

Some country icons who died this year were honored during the 2020 CMAs last night (including Kenny Rogers, Charlie Daniels, and Mac Davis), but three icons went unmentioned during the broadcast: John Prine, Jerry Jeff Walker, and Billy Joe Shaver. For this reason, Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires have announced that they’re returning their lifetime membership cards to the Country Music Association. “I doubt anybody will care, but we cared a lot about our heroes,” Isbell wrote.

This year’s CMAs has been at the receiving end of criticism by multiple artists. In the video below, Sturgill Simpson joined Isbell in calling out the show for not mentioning Prine. “Don’t get it twisted…wouldn’t be caught dead at this tacky ass glitter and botox cake & cock pony show even if my chair had a morphine drip,” Simpson wrote. “I just wanted to see if they would say his name but nope.” The video includes his reaction to one of the night’s performances. Simpson, who has called out the CMAs before, discussed his friendship with Prine on Colbert on the night of the CMAs.

“We’re disappointed John won’t be a part of the CMA award show tonight,” Prine’s label Oh Boy Records wrote in a tweet. “Country music was both the inspiration and foundation for his songwriting and performing. While there may be a number of artists who have had more commercial success than John, there are very few who achieved more artistically.”

Margo Price called out the apparent censorship inherent to the show’s “no drama” billing. “Anyone still participating is a socially unconscious pawn,” she wrote. “Artists pander woke authenticity when it benefits them and then sit in silence as they collect their plastic trophies. Also the music sucks.” Price also criticized the show’s lack of diversity. Maren Morris took a moment in her speech last night to acknowledge and thank Black women in country music.

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Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires Exit Country Music Association After 2020 CMA Didn't Honor John Prine (Original Post) G_j Nov 2020 OP
Good for them... dhill926 Nov 2020 #1
Good for you Jason and Amanda ... But Sturgill definitely wins the diss contest ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #2
That's some creative writing, right there! OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #3
I read up on Mr. Simpson after that Colbert show. yonder Nov 2020 #4
but how do ya' really feel, Mr. Simpson? (nt) stopdiggin Nov 2020 #7
I keep thinking of this song True Blue American Nov 2020 #8
yep G_j Nov 2020 #13
Love it!! And remember when O Brother Where Art Thou was released? Roland99 Nov 2020 #14
That was a high point--really good music and musicianship almost became mainstream BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #18
Why wouldn't the cma even Cha Nov 2020 #5
The current Country music stinks, Cha. True Blue American Nov 2020 #9
I'm going to have to read up on this stopdiggin Nov 2020 #6
"Well there is big hat country music, and then there is real country music" Captain Zero Nov 2020 #10
"We got both kinds of music, country and western." TeamPooka Nov 2020 #12
Pop country sucks Sugarcoated Nov 2020 #11
They call it the "New Country" and I can't stand it... robbob Nov 2020 #15
Rant on.. Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #16
I stopped listening to mainstream country once the Dixie Chicks BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #17
Stick with Americana and Roots music. (nt) JaneQPublic Nov 2020 #19
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Good for you Jason and Amanda ... But Sturgill definitely wins the diss contest ...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 03:03 AM
Nov 2020

“Don’t get it twisted…wouldn’t be caught dead at this tacky ass glitter and botox cake & cock pony show even if my chair had a morphine drip,” Simpson wrote.

Love that guy ...

yonder

(9,664 posts)
4. I read up on Mr. Simpson after that Colbert show.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 04:06 AM
Nov 2020

He's somewhat a rebel in the biz and I've got to admire the both of them for giving that biz a pointy-toed boot in the butt. I hope it will do some good.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
8. I keep thinking of this song
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 05:15 AM
Nov 2020

When I think of the current so called Country music. I agree with Sturgill. The last time I enjoyed Country music was sitting at the Ryman Auditorium this young man walked out,sang this song. I did not know who he was but this came out.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
14. Love it!! And remember when O Brother Where Art Thou was released?
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:10 AM
Nov 2020

No country stations would play the music

It was too country (more bluegrass)

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
18. That was a high point--really good music and musicianship almost became mainstream
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:23 PM
Nov 2020

without the help of radio.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
5. Why wouldn't the cma even
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 04:19 AM
Nov 2020

mention John Prine, Jerry Jeff Walker, & Billy Joe Shaver?

I remember here when John Prine passed from COVID there were so many RIP and stories..

stopdiggin

(11,304 posts)
6. I'm going to have to read up on this
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 04:58 AM
Nov 2020

I don't want to prejudge, but ....
I'm finding it hard to believe that the three artists mentioned here completely escaped the attention ....
Hard to know what was going through people's minds.

And for those not familiar -- Jason Isbell is hands down one of the best writers in the industry today. If you don't know his work, particularly his lyrics -- you owe it to yourself.

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
10. "Well there is big hat country music, and then there is real country music"
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 05:37 AM
Nov 2020

That's a quote from me. I think it really falls along those lines so often. If the guy walks out in a big hat, there is a good chance there is nothing under it.

robbob

(3,528 posts)
15. They call it the "New Country" and I can't stand it...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:11 AM
Nov 2020

Rednecks rapping about pickup trucks over looped drum samples that are more suited to a rock or rap track, and they call it “country” because the singer has a twang in their accent and they throw some fiddle or a banjo in the mix.

I’ve heard this music referred to as “lowest common denominator” entertainment. It’s aural wallpaper, but speaking as a musician it grates on my every nerve when I (used to) hear it on the sound system at the local bar.

My friends got quite tired of hearing me rant about it! 😬

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
16. Rant on..
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:16 PM
Nov 2020

When you're right, you're right!

As far as the CMAs? If you're going to honor some, you must honor all. Not recognizing John Prine in particular is a damn shame.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
17. I stopped listening to mainstream country once the Dixie Chicks
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:21 PM
Nov 2020

got muscled out. Even before then, it's always been a hard road for more alternative country acts to get featured on CMT or radio. The whole genre became formulaic Kenny-Chesneyed and Taylor-Swifted. Do people even remember that she started out as a "country" act? They're not going to waste time on non-pop/non-mainstream musicians and songwriters anymore.

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