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A possibility of 12 years of a democrat in Whitehouse (Original Post) Watchfoxheadexplodes Nov 2020 OP
We'll probably get a worse Trump style one in 2024 like Tom Cotton sunonmars Nov 2020 #1
I agree. Four years is not enough time for Biden/Harris to fix the shit show they mucifer Nov 2020 #2
You might be surprised Shermann Nov 2020 #23
I don't think Tom Cotton has the appeal of Trump . I think the porn addicted Republicans JI7 Nov 2020 #4
I completely agree with you on this. joshcryer Nov 2020 #11
Tucker or Jr. My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #12
Cotton is a stiff unlikable dork, no threat. Rubio or Haley are dangerous Cicada Nov 2020 #10
Haley scares me most. n/t moonscape Nov 2020 #16
Haley is Trump with a smile Poiuyt Nov 2020 #19
And a brain n/t moonscape Nov 2020 #21
unless he is dead or terminally ill or in prison, I fully expect Rump to run in 2024 Celerity Nov 2020 #13
Agreed Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #3
I believe Harris can win 2024. In_The_Wind Nov 2020 #5
Me too, and I'm counting on it. Rorey Nov 2020 #6
We discounting Joe 2024? mwooldri Nov 2020 #7
Exactly Joe has every right to run in 2024 if he wishes sunonmars Nov 2020 #8
Possibly. MrsCoffee Nov 2020 #26
Why wouldn't Biden be re-elected in 24? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author King of the sheep Nov 2020 #15
So? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author King of the sheep Nov 2020 #20
I rather judge people by Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #22
I will be very surprised if Biden doesn't run in 2024, barring some catastrophe Celerity Nov 2020 #14
I would vote for him again. In_The_Wind Nov 2020 #24
well if he runs again, I would think everyone on here would, as I doubt anyone would primary Celerity Nov 2020 #27
I would not be surprised at all. MrsCoffee Nov 2020 #28
January 21st, 2026 Celerity Nov 2020 #29
Joe just has to make it to January 21, 2023 Wednesdays Nov 2020 #31
That's a lot of chickens you got there genxlib Nov 2020 #18
More like 24 years fescuerescue Nov 2020 #25
And what is more terrifying than a woman of color as POTUS? milestogo Nov 2020 #30
While certainly possible I wouldn't start popping the champagne just yet inwiththenew Nov 2020 #32

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
1. We'll probably get a worse Trump style one in 2024 like Tom Cotton
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:04 AM
Nov 2020

The worst opponent we can have in 2024 is an articulate Trump style GOP'er who knows how to control themselves eloquently.

Trump has shown how far they can get away with stuff......they will all be trying to be Trump in 2024.

mucifer

(23,542 posts)
2. I agree. Four years is not enough time for Biden/Harris to fix the shit show they
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:06 AM
Nov 2020

have been handed. I think they will get the blame for everything as things get worse before they get better.

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
23. You might be surprised
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:01 AM
Nov 2020

That big book that Kayleigh handed Leslie Stahl was mostly executive orders. Those are much easier to undo than bonafide legislative achievements.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
4. I don't think Tom Cotton has the appeal of Trump . I think the porn addicted Republicans
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:10 AM
Nov 2020

that support Trump would not support Cotton or Pence or similar types because they are afraid their sex lives(porn) would be banned by them.

I think a good number of people that supported Trump are those that liked his trashy side .

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
11. I completely agree with you on this.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:59 AM
Nov 2020

The reason Trump appealed to some Republicans is that he was just a total piece of shit. The Religious fanatics of course would over look it because he's Republican, but the other sick ones, the pervs, the grab 'em by the pussy types, they had someone they could finally identify with. Big beer belly sexual assault misogynistic types.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. Agreed
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:10 AM
Nov 2020

I see Harris as the 2024 candidate as well. I hope that the thought is terrifying to the republicans. Buckle up we are in for a full blown shit storm.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
6. Me too, and I'm counting on it.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:36 AM
Nov 2020

She'll have four years to show the country how awesome we know she is.

I'm so excited about all of the shining stars we have right now. I feel a big change for the better coming.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
7. We discounting Joe 2024?
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:38 AM
Nov 2020

If Joe decides not to run in 2024 then yes Kamala will be a strong frontrunner. However any Democrats running in 2022 and 2024 will face a re-energized GOP and it might be better for the party to have Joe in 2024 - incumbent presidents who don't screw things up royally tend to get reelected. But I have no crystal ball, can't tell the future.

One thing I can say though is that the Democratic Party had better get its Get Out The Vote machinery into top gear in 2022 as Republicans will be very motivated - with or without former president Donald Trump helping out.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
26. Possibly.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:21 AM
Nov 2020
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129

Biden signals to aides that he would serve only a single term

While the option of making a public pledge remains available, Biden has for now settled on an alternative strategy: quietly indicating that he will almost certainly not run for a second term while declining to make a promise that he and his advisers fear could turn him into a lame duck and sap him of his political capital.

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By signaling that he will serve just one term and choosing a running mate and Cabinet that is young and diverse, Biden could offer himself to the Democratic primary electorate as the candidate best suited to defeat Trump as well as the candidate who can usher into power the party’s fresh faces.

Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #9)

Response to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #17)

Celerity

(43,357 posts)
27. well if he runs again, I would think everyone on here would, as I doubt anyone would primary
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:23 AM
Nov 2020

him, and if they did, anyone supporting the primary opponent will be quickly banned via hides, I would assume (or by the owners/MIRT). I cannot see this place being very friendly to anyone who supports the challenger.

Where it gets dicey is if Biden chooses to not run. A holy war may kick off between Harris supporters and supporters of other candidates. I am DEFFO staying the hell out the primaries forum if that happens. Do not need that level of argy bargy. Nope nope nope. All I would wish is that she picked Pete for her VP.

Celerity

(43,357 posts)
29. January 21st, 2026
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:34 AM
Nov 2020

At that point he could step down and Harris could assume the POTUS and because it is one day less than 2 years of the term left, she could still run twice (for two full terms). Technically it could be on January 20th (as it says MORE than two years), but 1 extra day seems fair just to play it safe from some inane court challenge.


Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2. This Article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.

Wednesdays

(17,373 posts)
31. Joe just has to make it to January 21, 2023
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:56 AM
Nov 2020

and he could resign "for health reasons." Kamala Harris would then take over as president, and would be eligible to run as incumbent in both 2024 and 2028.

ETA: Or, Joe could win re-election in 2024, then resign on January 21, 2027. Kamala Harris could then run as incumbent in both 2028 and 2032. In that scenario, Democrats hold the White House for at least 16 years.

genxlib

(5,526 posts)
18. That's a lot of chickens you got there
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:23 AM
Nov 2020

I mean technically, all I see are eggs but let’s go ahead and count them anyway.

It is folly to think that the road is that open for us. Biden is stepping into an extraordinarily challenging time with a broken government, shattered economy, ongoing pandemic and divided Congress. He’s got 2 years to fix a lot of things before the midterms where the fickle electorate will have the chance to punish us for not fixing things fast enough like they always do.

Let’s focus on the near term and actually be worthy of anything further down the road.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
32. While certainly possible I wouldn't start popping the champagne just yet
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:31 AM
Nov 2020

Envision a scenario in which 2022 doesn't go well for the party and Biden decides not run in 2024. Could be an ugly primary process and finger pointing for losses in the midterm for those who were in power.

Odds are it won't but 4 years is a long time in politics and a lot can happen.

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