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The Final Map - Just Wow (Original Post) kpete Nov 2020 OP
A little more blue please world wide wally Nov 2020 #1
+1,000,000! dchill Nov 2020 #3
A lot of that red is just dirt StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #6
Martian soil shelshaw Nov 2020 #9
Yep.. mountain grammy Nov 2020 #14
Yep. And cows. I think in 2016 Clinton counties were responsible for 67% of GDP. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2020 #25
But now we got some more of that dirt to turn blue! IronLionZion Nov 2020 #60
Georgia red clay no longer red. wnylib Nov 2020 #65
The Crimson Tide stops at the Bama/Georgia border nt IronLionZion Nov 2020 #67
Agreed JDC Nov 2020 #39
It's bdamomma Nov 2020 #2
We've got 'em surrounded! BComplex Nov 2020 #4
And they're circling the wagons. Showdown. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2020 #15
Let's smoke 'em out. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2020 #23
Maine and Nebraska tell the political story of this nation. Bok_Tukalo Nov 2020 #5
If every state divided up their EVs proportionally genxlib Nov 2020 #8
Would it? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2020 #24
If they were broken up by congressional district genxlib Nov 2020 #54
I wonder could it be done without constitutional amendment treestar Nov 2020 #30
Alternatively drmeow Nov 2020 #66
Ironically, Romney would have won in 2012 using that model IronLionZion Nov 2020 #61
Still too much of that irritating, red rash. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #7
making me cry all over again. AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #10
My condolences to those of you, DUers, that live in red states Butterflylady Nov 2020 #11
Much prefer this version (tho not final) soothsayer Nov 2020 #12
I'd like to see a map of federal revenue paid by state. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2020 #13
I heard on a MSNBC panel the other day SCantiGOP Nov 2020 #62
if everyone saw the that, it'd be clear blue states keep the US afloat. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2020 #68
25 states for tRump is a long way from 45. pazzyanne Nov 2020 #16
So if you're Biden.... bluecollar2 Nov 2020 #17
How about we started honoring the treaties? LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #19
We know this? treestar Nov 2020 #31
Too many right wing whites. There are enough liberal whites in the other places JI7 Nov 2020 #34
Just WOW is right! Hip2bSquare Nov 2020 #18
Keep it coming. warmfeet Nov 2020 #20
Maine has 4 electoral votes mercuryblues Nov 2020 #21
not sure what you mean? Those states are shown cross hatched and the CD EVs are on the right side of Takket Nov 2020 #26
correct, but they are missing the popular votes EVs mercuryblues Nov 2020 #48
I'm feeling a shift today, towards acceptance that Donnie lost. BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #22
Not as good as we wanted or expected Amishman Nov 2020 #27
They say that Covid has people leaving cities and moving to more rural areas. I wonder if that Squinch Nov 2020 #28
Next time quakerboy Nov 2020 #29
Amen! It's time to get NC to turn blue. BComplex Nov 2020 #58
Dumbfuckistan has shrunk,,,,,, Cryptoad Nov 2020 #32
it is still sickening how many Americans voted for that POS Trump Skittles Nov 2020 #50
35% brainwashed and +12% married to them and thus brainwashed? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #63
It was a masterful strategy, in a pandemic, with multiple backups bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #33
Im hoping we can keep this map plus Tribetime Nov 2020 #35
Missouri here PinkTiger Nov 2020 #52
You almost voted Obama 08 right? Tribetime Nov 2020 #55
Here's a more accurate map. griffi94 Nov 2020 #36
Meaningless. Trees, soybeans, wheat, corn, cows, hogs, chickens don't vote, people do. Blue_true Nov 2020 #40
I agree. Land doesn't vote. Catherine Vincent Nov 2020 #42
Scroll down in that link -- it's there. JudyM Nov 2020 #64
I think this data map is from the 2016 election. intheflow Nov 2020 #43
Um... Wednesdays Nov 2020 #56
+ 5,349,965 and counting. (nt) klook Nov 2020 #57
That second map is genius. I can't wait to see the 2020 version. nt crickets Nov 2020 #69
It's a landslide and the biggest electoral blowout in history.... sinkingfeeling Nov 2020 #37
That the race was as close as it was truly says a lot of bad things about the Blue_true Nov 2020 #38
That blue looks slowly creeping around the coasts Roc2020 Nov 2020 #41
I love that the new West Blue Wall looks like a mighty arm colorado_ufo Nov 2020 #44
It's not the map we would all like, but... BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #45
I want that whole East Coast. Bleacher Creature Nov 2020 #46
The next Trump move will be to try and get 36 electors to flip. Kablooie Nov 2020 #47
It's so sad that we in the East & Great Lakes are separated by our brothers and sisters in the West catbyte Nov 2020 #49
Looks like a landslide to me! Poiuyt Nov 2020 #51
Nice to see the West Coast "encroaching east" question everything Nov 2020 #53
This map has looked way worse in the past. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #59

IronLionZion

(45,612 posts)
60. But now we got some more of that dirt to turn blue!
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:02 PM
Nov 2020

Who would have thought Arizona and Georgia would go blue. Let's take Texas next

genxlib

(5,546 posts)
8. If every state divided up their EVs proportionally
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:07 PM
Nov 2020

The idiotic skew in the Electoral College would essentially go away. Not completely but it would normalize towards the popular vote to make it almost impossible to get the kind of upside down results we have had recently.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,350 posts)
24. Would it?
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:06 PM
Nov 2020

Wouldn’t that incentivize gerrymandering? Which repigs seem to be better at. Also don’t we still get screwed with population concentration?

I’m genuinely curious. I don’t know.

genxlib

(5,546 posts)
54. If they were broken up by congressional district
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:38 PM
Nov 2020

Then yes, gerrymandering would still be an issue. I was talking about a straight breakdown of the EVs by the proportion of the popular vote in the state

The skew would go way down

treestar

(82,383 posts)
30. I wonder could it be done without constitutional amendment
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:18 PM
Nov 2020

to change the number of EVs per state to just be their number of house representatives and subtract the two for the Senate. Then it would at least be proportional to population. Wyoming would only get 1 and CA would get 53 so citizens' votes in the two states would be of equal weight per electoral vote.

There's another idea I read today: or add 50 EVs that just go to the PV winner.

drmeow

(5,032 posts)
66. Alternatively
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:43 PM
Nov 2020

increase the electors to 1000, distributed by population - no amendment needed. Also, increase the size of the house of representatives.

Butterflylady

(3,555 posts)
11. My condolences to those of you, DUers, that live in red states
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:31 PM
Nov 2020

I know you all did the best you can. Unfortunately there is no cure for stupidity.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,167 posts)
13. I'd like to see a map of federal revenue paid by state.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:34 PM
Nov 2020

That would be more reflective of the intention of the EC.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,167 posts)
68. if everyone saw the that, it'd be clear blue states keep the US afloat.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 04:27 PM
Nov 2020

But the MSM are keeping that nugget under their collective hats.

pazzyanne

(6,560 posts)
16. 25 states for tRump is a long way from 45.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:51 PM
Nov 2020

A trumper at a PA rally predicted Dump would win 47 states when interviewed by Jordan Klepper.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
17. So if you're Biden....
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:52 PM
Nov 2020

Where do you focus next?

For me its easy...

North and South Dakota and Oklahoma....

Native Americans have been screwed for too long...

Native Americans delivered Arizona. It's time to recognize that....and get on with actually representing America.

JI7

(89,282 posts)
34. Too many right wing whites. There are enough liberal whites in the other places
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:30 PM
Nov 2020

to help win along with huge minority turnout.

Hip2bSquare

(291 posts)
18. Just WOW is right!
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:54 PM
Nov 2020

What an amazing sight to see! Arizona is BLUE! 3 out of the 4 corner states!

Georgia is BLUE! Ms. Stacey Abrams...I'm going to stand back and stand by! Whatever you need. I'm here to keep pushing!

mercuryblues

(14,552 posts)
21. Maine has 4 electoral votes
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:02 PM
Nov 2020

1 for each of its 2 congressional district and 2 for the popular vote winner.

Biden won 3 and trump won 1

Nebraska has 5 electoral votes

1 for each of its 3 congressional district and 2 for the popular vote winners

Biden won 1 and trump won 4

I know it doesn't change the results, but this is a national news network and they should know better.

Takket

(21,664 posts)
26. not sure what you mean? Those states are shown cross hatched and the CD EVs are on the right side of
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:09 PM
Nov 2020

the map.

mercuryblues

(14,552 posts)
48. correct, but they are missing the popular votes EVs
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:23 PM
Nov 2020

They key is not right. Which resulted in me reading it differently.



BusyBeingBest

(8,059 posts)
22. I'm feeling a shift today, towards acceptance that Donnie lost.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:02 PM
Nov 2020

Final states called, people are moving on.

Squinch

(51,074 posts)
28. They say that Covid has people leaving cities and moving to more rural areas. I wonder if that
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:14 PM
Nov 2020

will flip some more states to blue?

quakerboy

(13,923 posts)
29. Next time
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:16 PM
Nov 2020

Lets take back NC.

And lets take every cent we nationally focus on Florida and put it all into Texas.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
63. 35% brainwashed and +12% married to them and thus brainwashed?
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:15 PM
Nov 2020

Meanwhile, they think the same of us and worse.

Someone is wrong and we aint it, but their side is nastier.

They got them believing we kill babies for pleasure and other nonsense.



I called my old man yesterday, 80-something Republican and he gave me the unsure who won the election BS.

bucolic_frolic

(43,435 posts)
33. It was a masterful strategy, in a pandemic, with multiple backups
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:27 PM
Nov 2020

And as it turned out IA FL NC TX didn't fall into place, but only 2 of those were in the hunt by late summer anyway.

But we have work to do as the country has problems. We had to do all this work to beat Fat Hitler, and his MAGA zombies still believe.

The pandemic will slow us down severely, the economy is subpar, Congress is gridlocked, and we're stuck with the EC, no DC PR and a cavalry.

We have about 18 months to build a case for 2022. Tell me how we claw forward from this beachhead.

Tribetime

(4,715 posts)
35. Im hoping we can keep this map plus
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:30 PM
Nov 2020

Texas and North Carolina....and maybe Florida.........I've given up on my own state Ohio

PinkTiger

(2,591 posts)
52. Missouri here
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:52 PM
Nov 2020

And we used to be Blue. I was the Democratic central committee chair in the 1980s and we had a special dinner to honor James Kirkpatrick, the outgoing Secretary of State. Every Democratic state office holder came, and we had 300 people who bought tickets. And this was in McDonald County, in the SW corner of the state.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. Meaningless. Trees, soybeans, wheat, corn, cows, hogs, chickens don't vote, people do.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:40 PM
Nov 2020

The places that have the most people won the election for Joe, doesn’t matter how tightly packed they are.

Catherine Vincent

(34,491 posts)
42. I agree. Land doesn't vote.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:46 PM
Nov 2020

I need to find the most accurate map. It has white in the areas that is land.

intheflow

(28,515 posts)
43. I think this data map is from the 2016 election.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:47 PM
Nov 2020

I would love to see it with 2020 numbers. More blue!!!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. That the race was as close as it was truly says a lot of bad things about the
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:37 PM
Nov 2020

people that voted for Trump. What in the world did they see in him that said “Leader”? As best, he was an arrogant, incompetent fool.

colorado_ufo

(5,742 posts)
44. I love that the new West Blue Wall looks like a mighty arm
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:03 PM
Nov 2020

with a large bicep - and Colorado is the fist!

Kablooie

(18,645 posts)
47. The next Trump move will be to try and get 36 electors to flip.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:18 PM
Nov 2020

If 36 that are pledged to Biden decide to vote Trump instead, the election is thrown to the house where each state gets one vote.

Technically possible but in reality nearly impossible but I'll bet it will be Trump's number one project now.

catbyte

(34,506 posts)
49. It's so sad that we in the East & Great Lakes are separated by our brothers and sisters in the West
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:25 PM
Nov 2020

& Southwest by Dumbfuckistan.

question everything

(47,561 posts)
53. Nice to see the West Coast "encroaching east"
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:55 PM
Nov 2020

If IA and NE will join - yes, hurdle too high - will have a real bridge across America.


BobTheSubgenius

(11,573 posts)
59. This map has looked way worse in the past.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:36 PM
Nov 2020

Even the very recent past. This is something to be proud of, and grow from.

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