Whoever in our party put two and two together deserves great credit

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Perhaps no single person ll did? and it was group think, but it worked in GA.:

1) Trump dissed mail ins, told his supporters to go in person.

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2) It gave us an opportunity to find every single Democrat out there in GA and through unbelievable hard work, by many many people, got them to vote by mail.

No wonder Lindsay Graham said if this continues they would never win again.

Makes me conclude that WE have tons more voters than they do.

If only ALL states could vote by mail.

[abqtommy]

1. Good op. One of Joe's priorities has got to be straightening out the USPS.

[PufPuf23]

7. A Biden enhanced USPS is a major link for the Democratic Party

to attract rural voters.

The PO is important in small town USA especially where there is no home delivery.

Rather than USPS services cut back, new convenient ways could be provided (like banking or health insurance or ?)

The USPS is the federal agency that interacts with more Americans than the IRS and, if fairly and well structured, provide a financial return to taxpayers as well as a bucket of utility to customers.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. +1

[Blue_true]

8. He should replace DeJoy and everyone that DeJoy promoted.

I believe bringing back the Post Master that Trump replaced to install DeJoy would be a good first step.

[Progressive Jones]

22. My other half works for USPS. She says DeJoy is DeSpised around there. nt

[Blue_true]

26. Joe should fire him on Day 1, and fire everyone that he promoted within

the first month of his administration. Bring back the Post Master that Trump fired, she was doing a good job.

[notinkansas]

27. It would be more appropriate

to charge, arrest, try, fine bigly, and then imprison him for the damage he has done.

[TigressDem]

2. I think it was EVERY DEM afraid of 4 more years of Dumpism.

WE have a lot of effort that goes into getting votes every election because we do go to win, but THIS year I think the people were DETERMINED to evict the vermin in the White House.

I don't know if there are any states that CAN'T Vote by mail, but the process should be that when those early votes come in they go into a machine and get read, but the total isn't revealed outside the official election space until the general election is over and the votes tallied together.

That way, the mail in ballots can be verified carefully and also everything happens in a timely manner.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. You couldn't in Texas except for seniors and people who

asserted that they would be out of state for two weeks. I think if we had a Dem governor, and had general mail in, TX would be blue.

[TigressDem]

31. Yeah, I suspect Texas is tired of years of having their votes toyed with.

Texas may simply have a NEW BLUE Revolution. Texans are strong minded and don't like being lied to, naturally, who does?

BUT in Texas, reactions may happen on a BIG scale. They don't do things by half measures. It's all in from what I have seen.

I think we DEMS need to be ON MESSAGE, Look - count ALL the votes.

Whoever you vote for, your vote counts in a DEMOCRATIC NATION.

VERIFY ALL THE VOTES are legitimate. FINE.

BUT lying and making up stuff because you can't win in a fair election....

IF YOU CAN'T WIN ON MERIT and the VOTES of the PEOPLE, YOU DON'T DESERVE TO WIN. PERIOD.

Go home.

Buh Bye.

Try again when you actually want to do it correctly and be WORTHY of being elected instead of scamming people into voting against made up stuff and trying to get valid votes tossed out.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. We need a super strong gubernatorial candidate. A Dem gov could make the difference. nt

[Wounded Bear]

3. K & R...nt

[Blue Owl]

4. Vote by mail and WIN!!!

[marylandblue]

5. Seems to be Stacey Abram

She built a huge outreach machine that seems to have overcome every obstacle. "Living well is the best revenge" should be our slogan for the national campaign.

[Blue_true]

9. She had massive boots on the ground. Our side didn't use the science of masking up and social

distancing to our advantage. I saw some here on DU that wanted Joe to stay home and not go out to do rallies, if he had followed their hopes, I believe that he would have lost. I believe that Susan Collins won in Maine because she went across the state meeting people while our superior candidate relied on tv and digital media to get her message out - that proved inadequate.

[marylandblue]

10. Lesson learned I hope.

[Blue_true]

15. We will see.

I get the sense that some on our side are so terrified of COVID19 that they look past the science on the power of properly wearing a well designed mask (you shouldn’t see light through it and not be able to blow out a candle while wearing it, AND it should fit over your nose and mouth, foam-fit to your face and have a nose wire that allows you to seal around the top of the nose to keep the mask from slipping). No one should go into a restaurant to eat or go to parties where struck social distancing and COVID19 hygiene isn’t being practiced, if a person notices that, leave immediately and strike the people that are culprits off their social contact list.

We should be able to meet people face to face and practice all that has come out about staying safe in such situations.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. Confused...Joe pretty much didn't do many rallies with

large #s of people, did he?

[Blue_true]

25. He didn't need large numbers of people. Just him getting out into the country in the last

six weeks of the election was decisive, IMO. He got the critical local media coverage that brought his message into the homes of voters, AND people that attended his rallies didn’t become spreaders or catch COVID19 that we know of. I believe that maybe rallies could have been held with people masking up properly, but the science on the power of proper masking and mask selection was not where it is today. I do believe that to get the economy back on track, we are going to have to rely on masking and social distancing instead of large scale lock-downs (though that should be done locally or statewide where officials are being asses, like in South and North Dakota). If Joe relies on a big shutdown, that is going to cause issues, shutdown places where officials are failing to properly do their jobs, while setting a clear national strategy and goals.

This may sound monstrous to you, but I am a real adherent of the General William T. Sherman saying “You can not qualify war in harsher terms than I WILL”. So, what does that mean? I am ok with people that refuse to wear masks or practice intelligent COVID19 avoidance procedures getting sick and either dying, or having long term side effects, as long as we educate people that want to protect themselves, relatives and people that they are responsible for protecting (like nurses, staff and doctors in nursing homes or hospitals, teachers and staff in schools), where we help those people intelligently avoid getting sick. I believe that as a society we would be better off without recalcitrant people that mindlessly oppose logical public safety policy, they either die or get slammed so hard that they wake the hell up - as long as people that are working to protect all of society face no harm or minimal harm, I believe that end is possible. So, a Shermanesque march across the South in dealing with anti-maskers must be done, with recalcitrant people being de-possessed at their own choosing, and the means for them maintaining their recalcitrance burned to the ground or killed off.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. Yes she was critical as we're many other groups. Mayor of Atlanta

Pointed out the efforts of the sororities too.

I was wondering if there was one person who figured out the advantage of us doing mail ins and them not so much.

[marylandblue]

19. It was a public health measure due to COVID

Trump made a big mistake turning it political and telling his voters not to do it.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. Yes, those were the facts, at first. But then what I am asking is

Was there an individual who realized what an extreme advantage this was for us. That we could vastly increase our vote in an easier way than getting people physically to the polls? Perhaps there wasn't anyone. Perhaps it was just the all out effort to win.

[TigressDem]

32. "Living well is the best revenge" I LIKE IT nt

[Blue_true]

6. The democrats in Georgia got out and knocked on doors.

There were many here on DU saying that was a bad idea. If we talk about believing science, yet don’t practice that science in all cases, we let opportunities escape us. For the runoff elections in Georgia, our side need to burn shoe leather, mask up and knock on doors, and make sure that staffers close to our candidates or even remotely connected to them follow proper masking and social distancing procedures at ALL times, we can’t have an incident like happened with one of Vice President Elect Harris’ Press staffers, where she went to a non work gathering and contracted COVID19 - our candidates simply can’t allow that to happen again.

[Thekaspervote]

11. Stacey Abrams!! She deserves the credit for our win in GA!!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Yes, have heard that. So she is the one who figured out

That because mail in voting was easier and if you just knocked it out of the park with GOTMIV, because they knew Republicans weren't doing that it could mean victory?

[Progressive Jones]

23. Absolutely. Stacey delivered !!! nt

[UCmeNdc]

12. All states should vote with paper ballots .

[PufPuf23]

20. Why not make USPS offices polling stations in future elections? nt

It has been over a decade since where I live had the option of voting except by mail (rural northern California).

[a kennedy]

21. and OMGAWD....HOUSE, SENATE, AND THE WHITE HOUSE.......

[UTUSN]

24. Our always tons more constituents, most never vote despite hurt by Repukes & benefits by us

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If every eligible voter actually voted, there would not be any Repuke in office anywhere, forever.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. Do you think mail in voting has a future? Shows how important

It is to control the state legislatures and governorships.

[UTUSN]

30. "legislatures/govs" - yip, fixing Gerrymandering & all else (popular vote)

Just saw Cheddar News for the first time, there was an excellent segment on the Electoral College, that "We alive now think getting rid of it started with 2000 but there have been 800 attempts throughout our history to do that" across party lines, "whenever your own ox gets gored." Also, that the Founders considered it with strong support not to establish it in the first place (if basing things "originalistically" matters).

I don't know the future of anything, but *all* obstacles swept away, allowing the mail-ins with the rest, is what we need.