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Just perfect
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Beakybird
(3,333 posts)moonscape
(4,673 posts)run amok when he ran against Obama.
Im so sick of him getting credit for telling an insane woman that Obama was not a militant Muslim at his town hall. Well duh. It was in his face and at the time I was not impressed, more like =finally!= And that is played over and over like an incredible moment. Too little too late.
I lost respect for him during that campaign and it made me sad the extent to which he compromised himself.
PatSeg
(47,425 posts)I'll give McCain credit for the times he was right and there were times, but what he said to that woman at his town hall was just what I'd expect any reasonable person to say. The credit he has received was overblown. I was more impressed when he voted against his own party and Trump on repealing the Affordable Care Act.
Like many people, I'd always liked John McCain, but as with you, I lost a lot of respect for him during the 2008 campaign. His "maverick" image faded considerably as he succumbed to the usual cheap republican political tricks and came across as weak, indecisive, and wishy-washy. He wasn't a very good candidate on the national stage and he never came across as presidential.
Its rather funny how the media is so quick to give republicans great credit for doing the right thing, reinforcing the fact that they so rarely do. Meanwhile, when Democrats do the right thing, they are portrayed as weak for it. The double standard lives on.
captain queeg
(10,188 posts)marble falls
(57,081 posts)... he was responsible for us handing Trump his first big defeat.
Beakybird
(3,333 posts)He voted for horrible judges, tax cuts for the uber wealthy, had a terrible legislative record on the environment. He was a hack.
Because of his heroism in Vietnam and his occasional adherence to general decency, he's venerated.
PCIntern
(25,544 posts)Dems however need to approach saintly status to be mentioned well.
My Pet Orangutan
(9,246 posts)I'll go with Joe about McCain's humanity.
Beakybird
(3,333 posts)FakeNoose
(32,638 posts)I really don't believe she was his first choice. She may not have even been his 10th choice.
But you know ... the rest is history.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)Oppaloopa
(867 posts)niyad
(113,301 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in everyone he worked with, without being a fool about what was not.
Please remember that Lewis worked passionately to create the ACA, while McCain opposed it just as hard and then worked for the next 10 years to it take away, lying constantly to voters that it was too flawed to survive. He only stopped he was dying. Perhaps he didn't want that final betrayal to be his legacy, but plenty of others are.
Lewis of course knew it all.
polmaven
(9,463 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)nuxvomica
(12,423 posts)As a kid, that type of shading seemed almost magical to me. He uses it to great advantage.
Callalily
(14,889 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)Gothmog
(145,195 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)However, I have seen and heard Cindy McCain speak recently and she impressed me with her good sense about this election. And I thought she was just a decent person. So I wonder if it could be that John listened to the better angels of his nature as his life slipped away. I am not saying "redemption" but certainly no trumper.
I think we should all remember how he gently corrected that elderly woman who called Obama a Muslim (like it was a dirty word). He corrected her.
My judgment was in my vote, ultimately. The system worked. He was defeated and never became president.
Baltimike
(4,143 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)Baltimike
(4,143 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,334 posts)of the time until his death. Let's not rehabilitate the GOP.
PCIntern
(25,544 posts)in saying that with respect to Republicans, its always compared to, thus George W Bush is FDR compared to Trump. .
spanone
(135,831 posts)Celerity
(43,349 posts)Between these constant McCain and TLP odes I wonder if I am at the right place sometimes. Sure, they all did a couple good deeds, but that doesn't come remotely close to atonement overall. I thank them for the few good things they did and there it ends.
Never ever going to stan on any of them, never.
PatSeg
(47,425 posts)Cosmo Blues
(2,483 posts)Has got to be happy Biden carried Georgia, hopefully he can help us some way get the two democratic senatorial candidates elected Jan. 5th otherwise progress will be stifled. John McCain was an ass and going downhill until he got sick and saved the ACA and started speaking out against Trump. So I can see them getting together to celebrate the defeat of the current president in this narrow point of agreement. And if the current president sees this it would irritated him, so there's that