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This is the most splendid political cartoon I think I have ever seen (Original Post) Soph0571 Nov 2020 OP
Great! Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #1
Yes it is. duforsure Nov 2020 #2
McCain is no angel. He supported Trump in 2016. Beakybird Nov 2020 #3
And he allowed way too much crazy to moonscape Nov 2020 #5
Same here PatSeg Nov 2020 #24
Yeah the bar is pretty low to depict McCain as an angel. captain queeg Nov 2020 #9
He had little effect to Trump being elected or not. But he did save ACA with his one vote ... marble falls Nov 2020 #11
He chose Sarah Palin Beakybird Nov 2020 #14
Yes. Very low bar with Rethugs. PCIntern Nov 2020 #19
And he was one of Joe Biden's closest friends. My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #26
I posit that any decency McCain had was born out of his friendship with Biden. Beakybird Nov 2020 #29
I think he got his arm twisted on taking Palin as a running mate FakeNoose Nov 2020 #30
Exactly... Palin was the proto-trump. nt reACTIONary Nov 2020 #31
Remember him calling his wife the C word during his campaign ? Oppaloopa Nov 2020 #13
I do not forget that. The tiny bit of respect I had for him ended then. niyad Nov 2020 #16
John Lewis liked him JI7 Nov 2020 #20
John Lewis was a big man who found what was to like Hortensis Nov 2020 #25
Splendid indeed!! polmaven Nov 2020 #4
The Canadian de Adder (from New Brunswick) has been really hot last couple of years. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #6
I love his use of hatching and cross-hatching nuxvomica Nov 2020 #8
Very moving. Callalily Nov 2020 #7
Love this Joinfortmill Nov 2020 #10
Their two states honored them by flipping blue Gothmog Nov 2020 #12
That cartoon is what I would call "aspirational." CTyankee Nov 2020 #15
Where's Elijah Cummings? nt Baltimike Nov 2020 #17
The Cartoon is about Arizona and Georgia JI7 Nov 2020 #21
Ok. Sorry about that. nt Baltimike Nov 2020 #32
McCain supported Trump in order to fend of a Tea Party challenger and voted with Trump 90 percent WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2020 #18
I agree, and would amplify PCIntern Nov 2020 #22
⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R ⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone Nov 2020 #23
Hard pass on the rehabilitation of the warmonger McCain. Celerity Nov 2020 #27
This one from a few days ago was really my favorite though PatSeg Nov 2020 #28
John Lewis Cosmo Blues Nov 2020 #33

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
5. And he allowed way too much crazy to
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 07:50 AM
Nov 2020

run amok when he ran against Obama.

I’m so sick of him getting credit for telling an insane woman that Obama was not a militant Muslim at his town hall. Well duh. It was in his face and at the time I was not impressed, more like =finally!= And that is played over and over like an incredible moment. Too little too late.

I lost respect for him during that campaign and it made me sad the extent to which he compromised himself.

PatSeg

(47,425 posts)
24. Same here
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:43 AM
Nov 2020

I'll give McCain credit for the times he was right and there were times, but what he said to that woman at his town hall was just what I'd expect any reasonable person to say. The credit he has received was overblown. I was more impressed when he voted against his own party and Trump on repealing the Affordable Care Act.

Like many people, I'd always liked John McCain, but as with you, I lost a lot of respect for him during the 2008 campaign. His "maverick" image faded considerably as he succumbed to the usual cheap republican political tricks and came across as weak, indecisive, and wishy-washy. He wasn't a very good candidate on the national stage and he never came across as presidential.

Its rather funny how the media is so quick to give republicans great credit for doing the right thing, reinforcing the fact that they so rarely do. Meanwhile, when Democrats do the right thing, they are portrayed as weak for it. The double standard lives on.

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
11. He had little effect to Trump being elected or not. But he did save ACA with his one vote ...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:45 AM
Nov 2020

... he was responsible for us handing Trump his first big defeat.

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
14. He chose Sarah Palin
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:16 AM
Nov 2020

He voted for horrible judges, tax cuts for the uber wealthy, had a terrible legislative record on the environment. He was a hack.
Because of his heroism in Vietnam and his occasional adherence to general decency, he's venerated.

PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
19. Yes. Very low bar with Rethugs.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:37 AM
Nov 2020

Dems however need to approach saintly status to be mentioned well.

FakeNoose

(32,638 posts)
30. I think he got his arm twisted on taking Palin as a running mate
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:59 AM
Nov 2020

I really don't believe she was his first choice. She may not have even been his 10th choice.
But you know ... the rest is history.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. John Lewis was a big man who found what was to like
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:46 AM
Nov 2020

in everyone he worked with, without being a fool about what was not.

Please remember that Lewis worked passionately to create the ACA, while McCain opposed it just as hard and then worked for the next 10 years to it take away, lying constantly to voters that it was too flawed to survive. He only stopped he was dying. Perhaps he didn't want that final betrayal to be his legacy, but plenty of others are.

Lewis of course knew it all.

nuxvomica

(12,423 posts)
8. I love his use of hatching and cross-hatching
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:02 AM
Nov 2020

As a kid, that type of shading seemed almost magical to me. He uses it to great advantage.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
15. That cartoon is what I would call "aspirational."
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:23 AM
Nov 2020

However, I have seen and heard Cindy McCain speak recently and she impressed me with her good sense about this election. And I thought she was just a decent person. So I wonder if it could be that John listened to the better angels of his nature as his life slipped away. I am not saying "redemption" but certainly no trumper.

I think we should all remember how he gently corrected that elderly woman who called Obama a Muslim (like it was a dirty word). He corrected her.

My judgment was in my vote, ultimately. The system worked. He was defeated and never became president.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,334 posts)
18. McCain supported Trump in order to fend of a Tea Party challenger and voted with Trump 90 percent
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:35 AM
Nov 2020

of the time until his death. Let's not rehabilitate the GOP.

PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
22. I agree, and would amplify
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:40 AM
Nov 2020

in saying that with respect to Republicans, it’s always “compared to”, thus George W Bush is FDR compared to Trump. .

Celerity

(43,349 posts)
27. Hard pass on the rehabilitation of the warmonger McCain.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:48 AM
Nov 2020

Between these constant McCain and TLP odes I wonder if I am at the right place sometimes. Sure, they all did a couple good deeds, but that doesn't come remotely close to atonement overall. I thank them for the few good things they did and there it ends.

Never ever going to stan on any of them, never.

Cosmo Blues

(2,483 posts)
33. John Lewis
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:50 PM
Nov 2020

Has got to be happy Biden carried Georgia, hopefully he can help us some way get the two democratic senatorial candidates elected Jan. 5th otherwise progress will be stifled. John McCain was an ass and going downhill until he got sick and saved the ACA and started speaking out against Trump. So I can see them getting together to celebrate the defeat of the current president in this narrow point of agreement. And if the current president sees this it would irritated him, so there's that

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