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Nevilledog

(51,086 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:24 PM Nov 2020

The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked 2-2 on certifying the vote.



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Kristen Clarke 866-OUR-VOTE
@KristenClarkeJD
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Nov 17, 2020
BREAKING: The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked 2-2 on certifying the vote.

This is the unfortunate result of relentless and anti-democratic attempts to undermine the election, especially in an area home to large numbers of Black voters.

Kristen Clarke 866-OUR-VOTE
@KristenClarkeJD
When county canvassers fail to certify results, the process (incl. all records and other info. pertaining to the election) moves to the board of state canvassers who have 10 days to certify.

The costs for this borne by Wayne Cty MI taxpayers.
Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 168.822
4:18 PM · Nov 17, 2020
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The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked 2-2 on certifying the vote. (Original Post) Nevilledog Nov 2020 OP
What the hell is going on here? Someone talk me down. servermsh Nov 2020 #1
The state board is also 2-2. Eid Ma Clack Shaw Nov 2020 #6
Oh no.. so Biden's WIN can't get certified Cha Nov 2020 #10
How much will this cost? When is the MI deadline? RainCaster Nov 2020 #2
Here is the level of insanity from Monica Palmer: Eid Ma Clack Shaw Nov 2020 #3
An up and comer. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #22
How happy will the Taxpayers be with Cha Nov 2020 #4
This is Michigan Nevilledog Nov 2020 #7
Oh Sorry.. right.. I knew Wayne County Cha Nov 2020 #9
Hey Cha, this is in Michigan, dware Nov 2020 #8
Thanks.. I'm just so upset I said PA Cha Nov 2020 #11
Hey Cha! NewsCenter28 Nov 2020 #14
TY, NewsCenter.. I actually Cha Nov 2020 #16
Statement from the SOS of Michigan! Cha Nov 2020 #38
OUTRAGE on Monica Palmer & William Harman.. 2 Maggots.. Cha Nov 2020 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author NewsCenter28 Nov 2020 #18
Please stop with the hysterics and baseless declarations Rice4VP Nov 2020 #23
You are factually incorrect NewsCenter28 Nov 2020 #42
I just don't see how they can Overturn Cha Nov 2020 #26
MIRT team, please greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #30
+100. nt dware Nov 2020 #34
Just stop with the doom and gloom, dware Nov 2020 #33
Looks like the "Coup Meter" has just gone up to level yellow... regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #5
The MAGAt infestation is real. We have a maniacal cult problem. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #12
No doubt.. but Democracy will Prevail.. Cha Nov 2020 #39
There is a coup attempt ongoing. David__77 Nov 2020 #13
Michigan GOP Chair "Proud" of this Eid Ma Clack Shaw Nov 2020 #15
These people are going to fuck up and their entire state's going to burn down. Goodheart Nov 2020 #17
Here's their contact info. ananda Nov 2020 #19
"Reckless and irresponsible" is the wrong choice of words. StevieM Nov 2020 #35
Exhale DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2020 #20
Ex poll trolls, now election trolls, foiled again. Kingofalldems Nov 2020 #29
Why isn't the media covering this? Huge story if the votes will not be certified. Nt helpisontheway Nov 2020 #21
Never mind..the governor just discussed it on Reid Out helpisontheway Nov 2020 #27
Apparently the governor has the power to remove board members Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #24
Nice. LisaL Nov 2020 #25
She just said that the board today failed to do their duty..she said it would ho helpisontheway Nov 2020 #32
Sec of State says don't worry it will be certified. NightWatcher Nov 2020 #28
The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked 2-2 on certifying the vote FelineOverlord Nov 2020 #31
Best comment: ananda Nov 2020 #36
The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked 2-2 on certifying the vote. FelineOverlord Nov 2020 #37
On Nov 13, from Marc Elias: ananda Nov 2020 #40
A lawsuit did not stop them LeftInTX Nov 2020 #41
But if Dems take this to court.. ananda Nov 2020 #43
That precedence does mean something obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #44
Our Favorite Election Lawyer Marc Elias Tweets FelineOverlord Nov 2020 #46

servermsh

(913 posts)
1. What the hell is going on here? Someone talk me down.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:26 PM
Nov 2020

"moves to the board of state canvassers"

What do we know about who these people are?

This is disgusting!

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
6. The state board is also 2-2.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:37 PM
Nov 2020

I heard that another deadlock there would throw the destination of the electoral votes to the GOP legislature.

Cha

(297,180 posts)
4. How happy will the Taxpayers be with
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:37 PM
Nov 2020

the Wayne county holdups for Certifying the Will of the voters?!

Will this go to the Michegan Supreme Court?! TY

ETA to change PA to MI!

Cha

(297,180 posts)
9. Oh Sorry.. right.. I knew Wayne County
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:40 PM
Nov 2020

is in Michigan.. What was I thinking.!
I'm so upset with this.. TY!

Do you have any idea how this will be resolved?

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
14. Hey Cha!
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:51 PM
Nov 2020

This is more annoying than cataclysmic. I read an article a while back on this that this would happen but that it is highly likely that a court will intervene and order the results certified. So, no successful coup yet but they are trying!

Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
23. Please stop with the hysterics and baseless declarations
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:28 PM
Nov 2020

What is your statement based on? This goes to the Secretary of State, who is a Democrat

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
42. You are factually incorrect
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:57 PM
Nov 2020

It goes now to the state canvassing board on Nov. 23 to adjudicate this failure to certify. The state canvassing board is also likely to deadlock 2-2 and this time with regard to certifying the whole state. One of the KGOP members of the state canvassing board’s wife is a party to one of the Trump lawsuits recently dismissed in Michigan. So, we are depending on the 2nd KGOPer to do the right thing. Never trust a KGOPer on ANYTHING.
The Secretary of State, while a Democratic official, does not have the final authority here unfortunately.

So, we need to have Governor Whitmer fire the out-of-control canvassing board members but what if they take their firing and contest it at the 4-3 MI conservative activist Supreme Court who already ruled Governor Whitmer had no COVID-19 emergency authority in a blatantly partisan 4-3 October ruling? I only bring that ruling up to show that the they proved they hate Gov. Whitmer already.

So, we’re left counting on these partisan Nazis in robes to do the right thing?? Glad Joe is still at 290 even with this bullshit and the GOP GA Sec of State is holding the line against the coup attempt for now. Even if he is coerced, we still have 274, I should add, but the fact they did this today in MI means the coup attempt is not totally dead yet.

Cha

(297,180 posts)
26. I just don't see how they can Overturn
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:32 PM
Nov 2020

the will of the Voters like that?

Without Civil Fucking WAR.

dware

(12,369 posts)
33. Just stop with the doom and gloom,
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:38 PM
Nov 2020

it doesn't even go to the MI SC, it goes to the SoS, who is a Democrat.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
13. There is a coup attempt ongoing.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:47 PM
Nov 2020

When it becomes clear that the lawsuit angle is spent, the focus move toward campaigning for Republican-controlled legislatures to prevent Biden electors being empowered.

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
15. Michigan GOP Chair "Proud" of this
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:52 PM
Nov 2020

?s=21

It might be that, ultimately, the only way to save democracy is to make voting for the Republican Party illegal.

Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
17. These people are going to fuck up and their entire state's going to burn down.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:57 PM
Nov 2020

This just might be the start of a civil war.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
35. "Reckless and irresponsible" is the wrong choice of words.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:39 PM
Nov 2020

It makes it sound like the people involved are exercising poor judgement. They are actually using extremely good judgement, given what their goal is. And their goal is to end American democracy. These people are fascists.

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
27. Never mind..the governor just discussed it on Reid Out
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:32 PM
Nov 2020

I do not feel good about her answer. She said it will go to the state board and then we will see what happens. So she is not confident that the votes will count???? I want her to definitively say that their plan will not work. I think Biden can win without Michigan but they might have this plan for the remaining states too. Omg I feel sick..

Fiendish Thingy

(15,598 posts)
24. Apparently the governor has the power to remove board members
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:30 PM
Nov 2020
Let me now put this to bed. § 10 Removal or suspension of officers; grounds, report.

Sec. 10.

The governor shall have power and it shall be his duty to inquire into the condition and administration of any public office and the acts of any public officer, elective or appointive. He may remove or suspend from office for gross neglect of duty or for corrupt conduct in office, or for any other misfeasance or malfeasance therein, any elective or appointive state officer, except legislative or judicial, and shall report the reasons for such removal or suspension to the legislature.
History: Const. 1963, Art. V, § 10, Eff. Jan. 1, 1964
Former Constitution: See Const. 1908, Art. IX, § 7.

Gov. Whitmer has total autonomy over Board of Canvassers at the state level. I would guess a failure to certify a legitimate election would count as neglect of duty or corruption. Nobody is losing a cushy post over Trump.


Taken from MI gov website.

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
32. She just said that the board today failed to do their duty..she said it would ho
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:35 PM
Nov 2020

to state canvassers and we will see where it goes from there. She did not say that she had power over the board.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
36. Best comment:
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:44 PM
Nov 2020

"Republicans playing the classics. Wouldn't be surprised if they came back with an offer to certify 3/5 of Detroit."

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