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MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:26 AM Nov 2020

When does Joe tell Barack "I've got this..."

It's a situation that's been around for ages: You are the NEW guy who is stepping up after having served under a well-loved and respected leader (unless you are a RepubliCon) - and the time comes when you have to make a decision that might not agree with what your former "boss" would have done.
What do you do?
Call and forewarn?
Seek counsel before a final decision?
Publicly call attention to the possible "difference" in the action?

What might the former "boss" do?
Call & complain?
Go public with disapproval?
Publicly praise but complain at home?

Anybody who's been in such a position knows the drama that can occur. I truly do not think it will ever be any serious problem between Joe and Barack, but it does allow for some fun thought.

What could the issue be? A cabinet nomination? Supreme Court nomination? Foreign policy initiative? Financial policy decision? Democratic Party platform and direction?

So, your thoughts?

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When does Joe tell Barack "I've got this..." (Original Post) MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 OP
Obama knows it's Joe's turn now and Joe can trust Obama on that. Obama knows a public Karadeniz Nov 2020 #1
I do think that Joe has got this. Marie Marie Nov 2020 #2
Obama - grace - THAT says it all! MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #6
Something seen as undermining the ACA, maybe? TDale313 Nov 2020 #3
Ha! Hadn't thought about that situation! MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #4
Imagining a future disagreement between Biden and Obama? left-of-center2012 Nov 2020 #5
Please... Enterstageleft Nov 2020 #7
It Won't Happen, or Not in Any Public Fashion The Roux Comes First Nov 2020 #8
It's good that his book came out now. In 2 Rice4VP Nov 2020 #9
Since when is OBAMA the PROBLEM? My thoughts are that I'm incensed by this post. hlthe2b Nov 2020 #10
Who said PRESIDENT OBAMA was the "PROBLEM?" MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #13
Not fun speculation at all. hlthe2b Nov 2020 #14
OK, I'll bite........... MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #15
It is disrespectful both to Pres. Obama and President-elect Joe Biden. You should delete it. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #19
It is extremely disrespectful I agree. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #18
I don't find it fun at all. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #20
You said it with your ' fun speculation'. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #22
I think you've completely misread their working relationship if you think that's likely. JHB Nov 2020 #11
... BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #12
What? Sunsky Nov 2020 #16
Never and why even post this? This is a terrible post and no it is not 'fun thought' Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #17
Obama is busy doing cleanup on aisle 44 as he lets those hateful GOPers know mfcorey1 Nov 2020 #21
Biden is NOT the "New Guy" . OBama picked BIden for VP because he has been around a long time and JI7 Nov 2020 #23
I don't picture them Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #24

Karadeniz

(22,572 posts)
1. Obama knows it's Joe's turn now and Joe can trust Obama on that. Obama knows a public
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:31 AM
Nov 2020

Position would revive the racists even more... He wouldn't want that.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
6. Obama - grace - THAT says it all!
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:48 AM
Nov 2020

I certainly agree - I only posted this because I thought that there may come a time - but then again, they had the chance to work together for 8 years - and we have NO evidence that it was anything less than a marvelous and successful relationship - a model of team leadership.
Besides, talking about situations like this is SO much more fun than talking about BunkerBoy and who he's trying to screw over next (well, of course, besides us!).

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
3. Something seen as undermining the ACA, maybe?
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:33 AM
Nov 2020

Although I doubt Biden would. Honestly, I don’t see too many circumstances where this would come up. Obama strikes me as someone who will be happy to let Joe be Joe. Now, if we were talking Bill Clinton and Al Gore if he’d become President... I think there would have been disagreements and I think Bill’s ego would have had him giving a lot of advice, wanted or not. I liked Bill Clinton, but I think this dynamic would definitely have played out.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
4. Ha! Hadn't thought about that situation!
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:42 AM
Nov 2020

Of course, we'll never know because of Gore's keeping Clinton at arm's length from him throughout the campaign.
And, looking back, I wonder how "interesting" the Thanksgiving dinners at the Bush estate were. Did "Dad" have any more "suggestions" about how to deal with all of the messes (think: DICK CHENEY!), or even little brother Jeb complaining about how "W" is screwing up his own future.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
5. Imagining a future disagreement between Biden and Obama?
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:44 AM
Nov 2020

That's not my idea of a fun game.

Biden is enough of his own man to not need Obama's approval on what he does.

And I doubt Obama is the type of person to criticize Biden's decision making.

Enterstageleft

(3,398 posts)
7. Please...
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:51 AM
Nov 2020

give our favorite president some credit for his savvy!

He will NOT do anything to disparage or undercut our next President.

Give him credit, Obama is far, far smarter than the most intelligent RePug you've ever known of.

The Roux Comes First

(1,300 posts)
8. It Won't Happen, or Not in Any Public Fashion
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 12:56 AM
Nov 2020

Grace and mutual respect are too strong in these two to lead to that.

We don't even know (or at least I don't) how much coercion or favor-calling by Biden himself was involved in getting Obama out in public as he wonderfully has been recently.

I think it would be great if Michelle could be coaxed down to Georgia for an early-December tour.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
9. It's good that his book came out now. In 2
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:20 AM
Nov 2020

months when the pig is gone, Joe & Kamala will get the spotlight.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
13. Who said PRESIDENT OBAMA was the "PROBLEM?"
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:13 AM
Nov 2020

The post posits a situation when Joe makes a decision that might differ from what Barack would have done.
Just "fun" speculation - NOT a prediction of a disrupted relationship.

Geez, guy, CHILL - HE'S GOT THIS!!!!!

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
16. What?
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:26 AM
Nov 2020
President Obama is not going to encroach on Biden's presidency. Seems as if you are a bit lost regarding the character of the man (Pres. Obama) you speak of.
I also don't think President Biden will have to consult with Pres Obama on his decisions. After all, Biden is not Obama's intern. We have only one President at a time and Obama did his 8 years, now is time for President Biden. The decision of what to do and what not to do will be solely Biden's.
There's always someone to give the daily dose of BS on here.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
21. Obama is busy doing cleanup on aisle 44 as he lets those hateful GOPers know
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:32 AM
Nov 2020

how he really feels about their eight years of obstruction!



JI7

(89,264 posts)
23. Biden is NOT the "New Guy" . OBama picked BIden for VP because he has been around a long time and
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:33 AM
Nov 2020

could give him advice .

This is a strange OP . Biden isn't some young inexperienced type that started under Obama and is just coming into his own. OBama picked him as VP because he was seen as ready to be President .

They have a good working relationship in addition to the friendship .

Turin_C3PO

(14,054 posts)
24. I don't picture them
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:38 AM
Nov 2020

having much disagreement. Years ago, Obama was a bit more progressive than Biden but that’s no longer the case. They each hold a tremendous amount of respect for each other. The only way I could picture it is if for some reason Biden undermined the ACA or something like that. But Joe won’t do that. In fact, I think Biden will advocate building the ACA up. Maybe they’d get in a fight over ice cream flavors lol who knows?

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