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It's a situation that's been around for ages: You are the NEW guy who is stepping up after having served under a well-loved and respected leader (unless you are a RepubliCon) - and the time comes when you have to make a decision that might not agree with what your former "boss" would have done.
What do you do?
Call and forewarn?
Seek counsel before a final decision?
Publicly call attention to the possible "difference" in the action?
What might the former "boss" do?
Call & complain?
Go public with disapproval?
Publicly praise but complain at home?
Anybody who's been in such a position knows the drama that can occur. I truly do not think it will ever be any serious problem between Joe and Barack, but it does allow for some fun thought.
What could the issue be? A cabinet nomination? Supreme Court nomination? Foreign policy initiative? Financial policy decision? Democratic Party platform and direction?
So, your thoughts?
Karadeniz
(22,572 posts)Position would revive the racists even more... He wouldn't want that.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)And I think Obama will have the grace to give him that respect. JMHO
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)I certainly agree - I only posted this because I thought that there may come a time - but then again, they had the chance to work together for 8 years - and we have NO evidence that it was anything less than a marvelous and successful relationship - a model of team leadership.
Besides, talking about situations like this is SO much more fun than talking about BunkerBoy and who he's trying to screw over next (well, of course, besides us!).
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Although I doubt Biden would. Honestly, I dont see too many circumstances where this would come up. Obama strikes me as someone who will be happy to let Joe be Joe. Now, if we were talking Bill Clinton and Al Gore if hed become President... I think there would have been disagreements and I think Bills ego would have had him giving a lot of advice, wanted or not. I liked Bill Clinton, but I think this dynamic would definitely have played out.
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)Of course, we'll never know because of Gore's keeping Clinton at arm's length from him throughout the campaign.
And, looking back, I wonder how "interesting" the Thanksgiving dinners at the Bush estate were. Did "Dad" have any more "suggestions" about how to deal with all of the messes (think: DICK CHENEY!), or even little brother Jeb complaining about how "W" is screwing up his own future.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)That's not my idea of a fun game.
Biden is enough of his own man to not need Obama's approval on what he does.
And I doubt Obama is the type of person to criticize Biden's decision making.
Enterstageleft
(3,398 posts)give our favorite president some credit for his savvy!
He will NOT do anything to disparage or undercut our next President.
Give him credit, Obama is far, far smarter than the most intelligent RePug you've ever known of.
The Roux Comes First
(1,300 posts)Grace and mutual respect are too strong in these two to lead to that.
We don't even know (or at least I don't) how much coercion or favor-calling by Biden himself was involved in getting Obama out in public as he wonderfully has been recently.
I think it would be great if Michelle could be coaxed down to Georgia for an early-December tour.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)months when the pig is gone, Joe & Kamala will get the spotlight.
hlthe2b
(102,360 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)The post posits a situation when Joe makes a decision that might differ from what Barack would have done.
Just "fun" speculation - NOT a prediction of a disrupted relationship.
Geez, guy, CHILL - HE'S GOT THIS!!!!!
hlthe2b
(102,360 posts)Disrespectful as hell, though.
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)HOW is this disrespectful?
Demsrule86
(68,675 posts)Demsrule86
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(68,675 posts)JHB
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(129,465 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)I also don't think President Biden will have to consult with Pres Obama on his decisions. After all, Biden is not Obama's intern. We have only one President at a time and Obama did his 8 years, now is time for President Biden. The decision of what to do and what not to do will be solely Biden's.
There's always someone to give the daily dose of BS on here.
Demsrule86
(68,675 posts)but divisive.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)how he really feels about their eight years of obstruction!
JI7
(89,264 posts)could give him advice .
This is a strange OP . Biden isn't some young inexperienced type that started under Obama and is just coming into his own. OBama picked him as VP because he was seen as ready to be President .
They have a good working relationship in addition to the friendship .
Turin_C3PO
(14,054 posts)having much disagreement. Years ago, Obama was a bit more progressive than Biden but thats no longer the case. They each hold a tremendous amount of respect for each other. The only way I could picture it is if for some reason Biden undermined the ACA or something like that. But Joe wont do that. In fact, I think Biden will advocate building the ACA up. Maybe theyd get in a fight over ice cream flavors lol who knows?