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Silent3

(15,431 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:54 PM Nov 2020

How about an "All laws must have teeth" law?

I'd propose that, once Biden is in office, and especially if Democrats get the Senate too, we make sure that any federal laws pertaining to the duties of federal employees (like the law Emily Murphy is ignoring right now about ascertaining the transition), which currently have no clear consequences for non-compliance, are automatically giving some sort of default penalty and enforcement mechanism.

I'd propose something like immediate firing of any non-compliant employee from their current position, a year in prison, and, where applicable, a court-appointed temporary replacement sworn to carry out whatever duty is being shirked.

I'm just brainstorming, so I'm sure this is a far from perfect solution, it's just a general idea. But what is clear is that we can no longer depend on people following "norms". Norms don't cut it any more. Republicans, Trump more than anyone else, have totally trashed that idea.

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How about an "All laws must have teeth" law? (Original Post) Silent3 Nov 2020 OP
And then: Harsh punishment for failure to enforce laws. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #1
we could start by enforcing the laws we have. for everyone. high, low, intermediate. bullimiami Nov 2020 #2
Laws seem only to apply to the commoners The Genealogist Nov 2020 #4
The issue here is not really her non-compliance, marybourg Nov 2020 #3
It's this, because it was assumed government officials wouldn't do it. marylandblue Nov 2020 #5
Yes. The law need to be made e plicit. marybourg Nov 2020 #6

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. And then: Harsh punishment for failure to enforce laws.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:58 PM
Nov 2020

In some cases it is the laws that lack teeth; in other instances, there is a failure of enforcement IMO. William Barr is an example of a person who fails to enforce and, even worse, terminates lawful and fully predicated investigations.

I spent some time reading about Mexico. In Mexico, laws exist, but there is impunity in law enforcement, and they simply fail to enforce the laws.

bullimiami

(13,113 posts)
2. we could start by enforcing the laws we have. for everyone. high, low, intermediate.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:59 PM
Nov 2020

and suing for the usa to be made whole for every unconstitutional action.




The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
4. Laws seem only to apply to the commoners
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:04 PM
Nov 2020

Joe Schmo possesses a joint? Jail time in many places. Big guy destroys the nation's economy for everyone? Slap on the wrist, if that.

marybourg

(12,648 posts)
3. The issue here is not really her non-compliance,
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 04:59 PM
Nov 2020

nor the lack of remedy, but the vagueness of the law, which allows a person of malevolent intent to interpret in the least benevolent way.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. It's this, because it was assumed government officials wouldn't do it.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:22 PM
Nov 2020

Congress didn't want to specify when the election was over because they wanted the transition to begin ASAP and there are too many variations to describe what should happen in each case. So they left it up to the discretion of GSA, assuming this couldn't possible be a partisan decision. There is really nothing to gain by delay, except in Trump's mind.

I think the law has to change now to take this discretion from GSA. Transition should automatically begin day after election even if nobody concedes. At worst, we wasted money on a transition that never occurs.

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