If your teen daughter's friend's father said this to your child, what would you think?

[intrepidity]

From the Vanity Fair article written by a school friend of Ivanka's:

Though he never remembered my name, he seemed to have a photographic memory for changes in my body. I’ll never forget the time Ivanka and I were having lunch with her brothers at Mar-a-Lago one day, and while Mr. Trump was saying hi, Don Jr. swiped half a grilled cheese sandwich off my plate. Ivanka scolded him, but Mr. Trump chimed in, “Don’t worry. She doesn’t need it. He’s doing her a favor.” Conversely, he’d usually congratulate me if I’d lost weight.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/ivanka-trump-was-my-best-friend-now-shes-maga-royalty

Can you imagine being that teenager, and having your friend's FATHER say that to you, to your face? Instant mortification and a lifelong therapy topic!

I suggest remembering this anecdote, and relating it to the MAGAt Trumphumpers in your life. A very simple story to tell that illustrates who that man is. They might high-five his "locker" talk about grown women, but when put in context of their teenaged daughter, it might suddenly hit home.

Just ask them: "Say, just curious; how would you feel if a man said this to your teen daughter?"

[MineralMan]

1. I'd think: "What a freaking creep!"

Then I'd try to keep my kid away from him.

[hunter]

40. ... and quietly destroy him.

.

[GopherGal]

41. This was actually part of the basis of my initial tolerance/sympathy for Ivanka

(now long regretted). I imagine tweener Ivanka's puzzlement as, one by one, her junior high BFFs are forbidden by their mothers from attending her sleepovers, fearful of the presence of her creepy father.

But when she proved to be just an opportunistic apologist ("oh he does that" when asked about his invasion of the Miss Teen USA changing rooms), my sympathy for the Princess evaporated pretty quickly.

[PSPS]

2. What problem? Most of trump's supporters are likely married to a relative anyway.

"If I divorce my wife, will she still be my daughter?"

[Mike 03]

3. Except for Mary and her deceased father, the entire Trump family is

a pack of entitled degenerates and thieves with impulse-control problems:

Don Jr. swiped half a grilled cheese sandwich off my plate

[intrepidity]

7. Can't disagree

but, to be fair, he was a kid and was probably flirting with his sister's friend, in that hair-pulling adolescent way. I'd cut the young Trump some slack here.

But the GROWN ASS MAN father? Oh hell no! Unforgivable, inexplicable, and downright outrageous.

[brush]

33. The pervert was probably thinking is she lost a little weigh he'd want to date her.

We know he likes his own daughter, who was a teen then, that way. And then there was his friendship with Epstein, the teen girl procurer.

[smirkymonkey]

4. He's repulsive.

He was born that way. I am convinced of it. His father might have made things worse, but I honestly believe that there was something wrong with him from the start.

[CatMor]

8. I agree with you .. there was something wrong with him from the start.

[smirkymonkey]

16. I really do believe some people are born defective.

Their brains are wired differently. Even if he had been born into the most loving family, he still would have ended up being a massive shithead. He is just a giant POS and he always has been.

[intrepidity]

23. It's even got a diagnosis: sociopath nt

[MyOwnPeace]

10. But seriously.........

WHICH ONE are you talking about - Sr. or Jr.!!!!!!

[smirkymonkey]

12. Both!

Senior, initially, but you could apply the same to Jr and his siblings. There is just something genetically wrong with all of them.

[MyOwnPeace]

15. AMEN, Brother!!!!!

[IsItJustMe]

17. Nature VS. Nuture

I personally think it's the person who was their role model growing up. But hey, you could be right.

[smirkymonkey]

25. I think it is a bit of both.

I think most people are born tabula rasa. There are very few people who are really born defective, but I think he was one of them. On top of that, he had a brutal, unloving, cruel father and an absent mother, but how many people have been dealt those same cards and have not turned out as sick as Donald Trump?

In fact, there are children who have been through much worse than he has been through and have come out of it much better. They have grown up to be wonderful people. Then there are people who are psychopaths like Donald and usually they find that there was some kind of brain abnormality that accounts for their sickness. I am not a professional, so I don't know for sure. I only know what I have read. But I honestly believe he was a bad seed. And he will never change. He will only get worse.

[Midnight Writer]

37. Yep. People may be born with characteristics that if not properly channeled can lead to problems.

If you have family that encourages bad behavior instead of steering a child productively, you get a Trump clan.

[mr_lebowski]

5. Good luck with that ...

You can't expect Trumphumpers to reasonably perform the mental exercise you'd be asking of them there. It would involve the concept of empathy, but unfortunately their brains are not sophisticated enough to make such connections.

Their response would be more like:
"I'd thank him if she had been getting porky! Also obviously she's making up all kinds of lies about Trump because he hurt her feelings once when she was a little girl. What a snowflake!"

[intrepidity]

13. We'll see. Fortunately, I rarely run into them, but if I do, I'll try it next time

It's just such a simple, precise, visceral illustration.

*ALL* adult females can relate to having been a teenaged girl. Without exception. Empathy or not.

Men with daughters can be *expected* to maybe be able to relate (obviously that doesn't preclude anyone else from understanding, as well, but it's the "at minimum" qualification).

[mr_lebowski]

20. I admire your generosity of spirit :)

In my experience, these people are all far more defective than I think you may be imagining.

You're projecting upon them an ability for empathy that they simply do not possess.

But by all means, give it a shot.

Let me know how that works out

[cwydro]

6. And what kind of person "swipes" a sandwich off someone's plate?

Were they taught NO manners?

[Celerity]

18. all of the Trumps have zero broughtupsy

[smirkymonkey]

26. A greedy pig.

Of course.

[MyOwnPeace]

9. From the old "grab them by the ...." story:

There's a house down my street where a family has 2 young daughters who were 3 & 5 in 2016. Lovely family and we live on a cul-de-sac and I'm at the "turn-around" end while they're in the middle of it all. I saw them all out on the street one day teaching the girls to ride their bikes. I suggested they come up to the end of the street (3 houses away) so as to have a better view of traffic and a better chance of having to get the girls out of the way of any cars. They DID do that and it was the perfect place for them to ride.

Later in the year (again, 2016) I saw a "TRUMP" sign in their front yard. Couldn't believe it!

(Here's where I blew it - "no guts/no glory" ) I NEVER approached them about that - and it bothers me to this day! How could ANY FATHER of any daughter (OK, yeah, how could ANY THINKING HUMAN BEING.........) support that HOG??????

And yes, the signs were out there again this year.

I still "wave" driving by - the girls wave back, as do their parents, but still.................

WHAT DRIVES A MIND TO SUPPORT SUCH AN IMMORAL PERSON?

[intrepidity]

21. Well, now you have the perfect question to ask them

if you ever talk to them. Needn't be confrontational at all, just a "oh, can you imagine this happening to your daughter" sort of thing.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. Is it true that she didn't need the sandwich? That maybe she carred a few extra pounds?

I've read on here that speaking straight facts like that isn't an insult if it's the truth.

[smirkymonkey]

19. What?

Who says that to a young girl? That's sick!

[intrepidity]

22. (I suspect the poster is being intentionally provocative

to make a point)

[Celerity]

14. I am convinced that well over half the male MAGAts would let Trump maul their daughter(s) and then

offer their wives up to him for 'dessert'.

[MyOwnPeace]

24. I don't want to take the time to search......

but the pics from "MAGA" rallies with the women wearing the shirts - arrow pointing down: "GRAB ME HERE!"

We DO have a problem here in this country..........

[intrepidity]

27. Honestly, it's one thing for those female magats to welcome his advances toward themselves

but if they have any preteen daughters at home, I imagine they'd object to what Trump said to his daughter's friend. If they're being honest, that is.

Like, I hope there's not a shirt that says "Grab My Daughter's ______!"

[MyOwnPeace]

29. Ha-ha!!!!!!

"If they're being honest, that is."

Now you know that MAGATS tend to be a bit "selective" concerning honesty, don't you?

[Celerity]

28. ...

[MyOwnPeace]

30. Oh, Celerity.......

what an amazing file of pics you have (said the wolf!).


Hey, Celerity:

[intrepidity]

31. OMG, that last one!

"I don't have a racist bone in my body"

[smirkymonkey]

32. Ewww!

So much wrong with all of them!

[MyOwnPeace]

34. Now, when you say "all of them"..........

are you talking about the pictures - or the RepubliCons?

[smirkymonkey]

43. Well...I suppose both, really.

I am constantly nauseated.

[3catwoman3]

36. All those pictures make me...

...want to hurl - especially the last one.

I would not want Trump within 100 yards of me for any reason.

[hauckeye]

35. He seems to be obsessed with women's weight

He once told a woman employee, “you like your candy don’t you”

[GopherGal]

42. Pot, meet Kettle

Mr. Two-Scoops.

[smirkymonkey]

44. This is the guy who regularly craps his pants.

Seriously. Per Noel Casler. Just watched a video on it today about The Apprentice. It was disgusting. Really disgusting. Trump is in no position to criticize anybody for anything. He is the most disgusting pig on the planet.

[ismnotwasm]

38. My dad, who was yes, a narcissist, said shit like that all the time.

Comments about the size of my breasts, my weight, what a “real man” was. He was gross. I thought he was a man of his “time” took me years to understand what he was. How his comments about my friends weight or appearance was disgusting. There were other behaviors.

He died almost unmourned. Left one hell of a lot of wreckage. One reason I KNOW Trumps adult kids are fucked up, and he left his Mark on his grandkids too.

[MyOwnPeace]

45. Wow! So sorry!

Hope you've been able to work through all of that and are at the top of your game!

[hunter]

39. My family is strongly matriarchal.

Threats like Trump are swiftly neutralized.

My mother, my grandmothers, and my great grandmothers are all very hard women of the Wild West.

My wife is a hard woman of the Wild West.

Zero tolerance of bad men.

They own the land.

Heh. I cannot be emasculated.

My balls are secure.

[kairos12]

46. Vile pig he is.