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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe One Word That Bars Trump From Pardoning Himself
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Eric Muller
@elmunc
"Can Donald Trump pardon himself? Thats not the question the Constitution requires us to ask. Can Donald Trump *grant himself* a pardon? The evidence, at least according to the text of the Constitution & its original meaning, says no."
Me in @TheAtlantic
The One Word That Bars Trump From Pardoning Himself
The question shouldnt be whether the president can pardon himself but whether he can grant himself a pardonand those are not the same thing.
theatlantic.com
5:53 AM · Nov 23, 2020
Eric Muller
@elmunc
"Can Donald Trump pardon himself? Thats not the question the Constitution requires us to ask. Can Donald Trump *grant himself* a pardon? The evidence, at least according to the text of the Constitution & its original meaning, says no."
Me in @TheAtlantic
The One Word That Bars Trump From Pardoning Himself
The question shouldnt be whether the president can pardon himself but whether he can grant himself a pardonand those are not the same thing.
theatlantic.com
5:53 AM · Nov 23, 2020
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/one-word-bars-trump-pardoning-himself/617170/
As donald trumps tenure in office comes in for its landing, a major question is whether the presidentfacing questions about liability for offenses including bank and tax fraudcan pardon himself.
This might seem like the right operational question, but it is imprecise as a constitutional one. Article II of the Constitution says that the president shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment. Did you catch that? The president has the power not to pardon people, but to grant Pardons (emphasis added). So the question is not whether Trump can pardon himself. Its whether he can grant himself a pardon.
That might seem like an odd way of putting the question, but its linguistically important. On the one hand, some actions cant be reflexiveyou cant do them to yourself. Think of surrendering, relinquishing, or handing over something. These verbs entail a transfer to someone else; the actor cant also be the recipient.
On the other hand, countless verbs do leave open the possibility of reflexive meaning. If, for example, the Constitution had empowered the president not to grant a pardon but to announce a pardon, one would be hard-pressed to insist that the president could not announce himself as a recipient.
So, what about granting? Is itin its usage in the Constitutiona verb more like handing over or announcing?
Judges and other legal scholars have a set of techniques for determining the meaning of constitutional text. One is to scour the rest of the Constitution for hints. If the same word appears in multiple clauses of the Constitution, one should assume that it has the same meaning throughout unless a clear reason exists to think otherwise. So lets look at the verb grant in the Constitution outside the pardons clause.
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The One Word That Bars Trump From Pardoning Himself (Original Post)
Nevilledog
Nov 2020
OP
Interesting piece. This is the sort of argument that could move justices like Gorsuch.
tritsofme
Nov 2020
#2
Ms. Toad
(34,070 posts)1. It's why he's always talked about himself in the third person:
He's going to grant a pardon to Donald Trump (not to himself).
canetoad
(17,160 posts)5. Do you think
That trump is subtle enough to understand...grok, the difference?
Ms. Toad
(34,070 posts)9. Nope. But it makes a good story. n/t
tritsofme
(17,377 posts)2. Interesting piece. This is the sort of argument that could move justices like Gorsuch.
drray23
(7,629 posts)3. sounds like splitting hair but I guess thats what interpreting law is about.
Is not there also a clause about not being able to pardon with a corrupt intent ? That appears to be a more solid argument.
dchill
(38,489 posts)4. Can Trump grant himself a pardon? I don't know...
...but he CAN go fuck himself.
Nevilledog
(51,104 posts)7. Not with that little mushroom dick
canetoad
(17,160 posts)6. Interesting post
And differentiation of language and intent. I shall await the outcome with breathless anticipation.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)10. Great article! Nt
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)11. The whole article linked is a great read. EAsy to understand. N/T
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)12. Good article. A compelling argument.
If, as the conservative members of the Court claim, the only goal is to find the original intent of the drafters, the use of the word "grant" should answer the question - a president cannot grant himself a pardon.