GSA Transition 2016 v Transition 2020

[DonaldsRump]

This is from the GSA in 2016: https://www.gsa.gov/cdnstatic/Transition-Overview-1-23-NK.pdf


Compare it to GSA's Emily Murphy's letter today:

[onenote]

1. The link is not to the 2016 ascertainment letter.

It would be interesting to see it. I'm sure it's much different than Murphy's whining screed. But the link is to something entirely different, so its sort of an apples to oranges comparison.

[DonaldsRump]

2. Just show the 2020 version of the 2016 document...if it exists

[onenote]

6. there's a website for the 2020 transition

and a memorandum of understanding entered into with the Biden campaign in September 2020.

https://www.gsa.gov/governmentwide-initiatives/presidential-transition-directory/welcome-to-the-2020-presidential-transition-directory
https://www.gsa.gov/cdnstatic/2020_MOU_between_GSA_and_Eligible_Candidate_%28Biden%29.pdf

As I said, I have little doubt that the letter of ascertainment issued by the GSA in 2016 was a straightforward decision without the nonsense in Murphy's letter. But you were comparing the Murphy letter to an unrelated 2016 document.

[DonaldsRump]

9. I understand that

But you are providing a pre-election MOU in 2020 which is even less relevant.

As I requested, please provide the 2016 ascertainment letter since you seem very concerned about the apples to apples comparison. I couldn't find it.

[onenote]

10. I can't find it. But I have said repeatedly that I have no doubt it is much different than Murphy's

nonsense-filled letter.

[judesedit]

5. It states 2016 on the document

[onenote]

8. It's not the ascertainment letter. Comparing the ascertainment letter to it is silly.

I have said (now for the third time) that I have no doubt that the 2016 ascertainment letter was much different than Murphy's whining nonsense. But it misrepresents the facts to treat the 2016 document posted above as if it is the ascertainment letter -- on its face it is dated well before the 2016 election.

There are 2020 documents (and a website) that pre-date the 2020 election that are comparable to the 2016 document linked by the OP. See post #6.

[DonaldsRump]

11. Good heavens...please provide the 2016 ascertainment letter

since you seem so concerned about an apples to apples comparison.

I looked and couldn't find it. The links you are providing are equally "silly".

[onenote]

12. I've tried over and over to explain it to you.

Not sure what your problem is.

I'll try one more time:

First: I can't find the 2016 ascertainment letter, but I have no doubt it is more professional than the Murphy screed.
Second, the information in the document you posted to, from September 2016, is reflected on the GSA 2020 Transition website, to which I provided a link. So its not a silly comparison at all.

[DonaldsRump]

13. My "problem" is that you are the one making ad hominem attacks

That's what "my problem" is.

Compare the 2016 document I provided with Emily Murphy's letter. I think we both agree that the latter is ridiculous, but you seem hell bent on saying these are two different things. They are not: what I provided was the best thing that I (or you) could find about the Obama's administration's commitment to a transition. Note that the document I sent specifically referenced a transition beginning on November 9, 2016, the day after the General Election. The document you sent for 2020 doesn't reference that at all.

If you want to make a point, don't be so condescending. It's much better if you actually read the documents you cite.

[judesedit]

7. Sorry. My bad. I thought the information regarding 2016 transition was sufficient

[Phoenix61]

3. This proves that Biden/Harris not meeting with

members of the Trump transition team doesn’t make a damn bit of difference. The money, office space and access to classified info matters.

[judesedit]

4. No comparison. Obama's GSA was so professional, prepared, and accommodating

Even knowing it was going to an incompetent narcissist. How disappointed and worried they probably were for good reason. It turned out worse than they imagined, I'm sure.