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OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 06:43 PM Nov 2020

What intel might still be in the hands of people holding it tight since 1/2017?

And might not being made available to shred before 1/2021? I think there will be a firehose of proof of Don's kompromat with the Russians. I really think Trump is "all in" on doing whatever it takes to remain in power, cuz' he's got a whole lot more to lose than the Office.

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What intel might still be in the hands of people holding it tight since 1/2017? (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 OP
I have wondered that myself leftieNanner Nov 2020 #1
If it exists, it has to come out. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #3
Good Point leftieNanner Nov 2020 #7
It's pretty obvious.....love and devotion to the Office was never what his 2016 campaign OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #9
And those pesky New York Indictments waiting for him to leave the WH leftieNanner Nov 2020 #11
Ultimate irony kurtcagle Nov 2020 #2
And the Fake News will be breaking all of the details...... OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #4
He has been a Russian asset since the 80s LSFL Nov 2020 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2020 #10
50 years, man Op-ed Daily Nov 2020 #6
Welcome aboard! OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #8
Ahhh. Adam Schiff. Be still my heart. leftieNanner Nov 2020 #12
Thank you! Op-ed Daily Nov 2020 #18
The that person(s) would be a traitor former9thward Nov 2020 #13
Maybe I didn't make my post as clear as I should have. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #14
So they had information while Schiff was doing his investigations and held it back? former9thward Nov 2020 #15
OK, we will see. Don't know how the evidence would be handled internally, because OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #16
What Trump & McConnell have done for Putin & The Oligarchs... Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #17

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
1. I have wondered that myself
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 06:53 PM
Nov 2020

I do try not to go too "tin-hatty" with some of this stuff, but I have always felt that the IC has been 100% on the side of the country, not on the side of the current squatter in the Oval Office. We may never know, though.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
3. If it exists, it has to come out.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:02 PM
Nov 2020

If my beliefs are wrong and Trump is free of foreign entanglements, I will happily admit I was a fool. But if I am correct, there are 70MM Americans that need to see the reality of Trumpism. This Trump/Putin Alliance is the attempted "New World Order" that Trump voters are so fearful of.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
7. Good Point
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:10 PM
Nov 2020

You are correct that this has to come out.

There are reasons that Donnie has been so terrified of losing the election that go beyond his toxic narcissism and fear of losing in general. He may want to stay away from cups of tea and high rise balconies.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
9. It's pretty obvious.....love and devotion to the Office was never what his 2016 campaign
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:19 PM
Nov 2020

was about. It's been a miserable 4 years for Trump....his ego gets occasionally stroked at rallies, then destroyed daily in the Fake News.

He hates the job now and hates more than 1/2 the country. But what really motivates him is the idea of losing power and facing the music.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
11. And those pesky New York Indictments waiting for him to leave the WH
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:36 PM
Nov 2020

Plus, I think he was planning to somehow leverage his position as POTUS when his massive personal debts come due.

Sucks to be you Donnie!

LSFL

(1,109 posts)
5. He has been a Russian asset since the 80s
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:07 PM
Nov 2020

In my estimation. So are his post Soviet wives. Stupid fat fuck fell for the old honey pot gambit.

Response to LSFL (Reply #5)

 

Op-ed Daily

(69 posts)
6. 50 years, man
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:07 PM
Nov 2020

I really hate to say it, but I don't think the US will ever have access to that information until 2067. The 50 year mark is usually when they declassify stuff and I don't see Biden wanting to stain the US with the fact that Trump was likely either a willing participant in Russia's attempt to destroy the US from within, or, he was just a stooge that was taken because of his narcissism - the useful idiot, as it were.

That's my prediction. Biden is old school and has already signaled to everyone that he doesn't plan to pursue prosecution. He claims it'll be up to the justice department.

I suppose we'll see.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
8. Welcome aboard!
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:14 PM
Nov 2020

Time will soon tell! It will be nice to see Rep. Schiff on a 1st name basis with the heads of DOJ/NSA/CIA/FBI. If there is serious evidence of systematic and widespread corruption, I think it has to get vetted, reviewed, and with substantial/decisive reaction. Otherwise, George Santayana.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
12. Ahhh. Adam Schiff. Be still my heart.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:38 PM
Nov 2020

Some folks have suggested him for either a cabinet position or the newest Senator from California (Kamala's seat).

Personally, I'm very happy to have him chairing the Intelligence Committee. He will be a very busy man starting in January.

 

Op-ed Daily

(69 posts)
18. Thank you!
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:34 PM
Nov 2020

It took me over a week to get into DU. They had shut registration off and I had to email them and prove I wasn't a troll. lol

And yes, time will tell! We can hope for one thing but expect the status quo at this point. That's how I see it anyway. I certainly hope I'm wrong.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
13. The that person(s) would be a traitor
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:40 PM
Nov 2020

And always remembered as such. There have been countless opportunities for that information to come out. If it was hidden it was because that person was an Russian spy.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
14. Maybe I didn't make my post as clear as I should have.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:54 PM
Nov 2020

I think there are people working in the government that have info and have kept it from the Trump clean-up crew. When Biden is sworn in, there will be a line forming in front of Adam Schiff's office.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
15. So they had information while Schiff was doing his investigations and held it back?
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:00 PM
Nov 2020

They had info that Trump was a Russian spy and held it for 4 years while Trump could do his damage? Ahh No, your post was crystal clear. Those people are traitors for not bringing the info forward and limiting damage. They will be remembered forever as such.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
16. OK, we will see. Don't know how the evidence would be handled internally, because
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:04 PM
Nov 2020

I am no expert on how info gets transferred and cleared for Congressional review.

Kid Berwyn

(14,897 posts)
17. What Trump & McConnell have done for Putin & The Oligarchs...
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:46 PM
Nov 2020

...could fill a bunch of Swiss banks. Anyone at Justice ever wonder what powered the NRA money tunnel? Why no mention of Rightwing domestic terrorism? Then there’s the fascist international they serve dropping off the radar PDQ.



Perhaps insane Scheissnozzle the Moron’s tax documents will show a bit of who owed what and how much to whomski. No-holds-“Barred” investigations would reveal what it meant for national security. And someone should ask the former AG, “Who, exactly, did Epstein compromise?“

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