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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy does Killa Con need to think about pardoning himself?
Didn't he say all accusations are made up shit?
Looks like 'di higher di monkey climb, di more he expose heself!'
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)If he's innocent, he wouldn't need a pardon. So, the fact that this question is constantly being asked just goes to show that he is guilty of something or somethings--and everyone fucking knows it.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Why does he think Killa Con needs to pardon himself?
In fact Dems need to be tweeting all day asking Matt Gaetz this question. Is he suggesting that his beloved Killa Con is guilty - of what?
Cirque du So-What
(25,972 posts)May the remainder of his days be spent in dread of government agencies and civil lawyers breathing down his neck.
safeinOhio
(32,715 posts)Timothy Simons, History teacher (retired)
Updated March 1, 2019 · Author has 2.7K answers and 8M answer views
A person may refuse a presidential pardon, and for some good reasons. In the case of Burdick v. the Untied States (1915) the US supreme court decided that a pardon is not an absolution of a crime, rather it is an act of grace. A pardon carries an imputation of guilt, and accepting the pardon carries a confession of guilt.
Burdick refused President Wilsons pardon. He was a newspaper editor who had been jailed for contempt of court, because he refused to disclose his sources in a damaging scandal involving corruption in the Treasury Department. His refusal of the pardon also confirmed the power of the free press. Hundreds of newspapers published the Treasury corruption story, daring the US government to throw them in jail with Burdick. Burdick was released.
That is why president Trump started being very careful with his pardons of people involved in his scandals. If he pardons them, and they accept it, they have admitted guilt to the crimes they may have committed. Then they can be called to the stand again and forced to testify (against Trump) without the ability to use the protections of the 5th amendment against self incrimination. They have been pardoned, and would suffer no penalty if incriminated, but they can be jailed for refusing to testify, which is contempt of court, or jailed for committing perjury.
Great times to be a lawyer.
malaise
(269,157 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)can send him there too.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I've been guilty of a few things in my life, but they're all past the statute of limitations.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Yep if he pardons himself that surely seems like an admission of guilt.
The reassuring thing is even if he does it matters not to New York, they are primed and ready to go after him.
The thought of that horrible excuse for a Human in an Orange Jumpsuit is a nice picture in my minds eye.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Shermann
(7,428 posts)The good news is that Biden is one hell of a barrel-jumper! Remarkable at his age.