A thought about Pence

[PJMcK]

One train of thought is that Trump would grant Pence a pardon and then resign making Pence the president. Then Pence would grant Trump a pardon before January 20th protecting Trump from Federal indictments.

Such an action by Pence would effectively finish his political career. He would lose any election as did President Ford in 1976. Pence would look like a total lackey and a political hack. He would certainly have a tough time in any future runs for office. whether or not to pardon Trump would be a complex and difficult decision to make.

My favorite scenario, which will NEVER happen, is that Trump pardons Pence then resigns. Pence, however, reneges on their deal and doesn't pardon Trump! That would be glorious! But it's never gonna happen.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I had the same fantasy the other day - that Trump resigns so Pence can pardon him

and then Pence doesn't do it (fearing what happened to Ford in '76). It's not likely to happen but it would be awesome.

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. I've never really thought about Pence. He is a soulless, contentless whisp, not worth a thing.

[PTWB]

3. Not necessarily.

This is a different time and we are a different country with different factions and a different electorate. Pardoning Trump to “own the libs” and “stop the next Democrat [sic] witch hunt before it starts” is unlikely to have any meaningful political ramifications.

Nothing else sticks to these guys. Not all the scandals, not 250,000+ dead Americans, not impeachment, not the “grab em by the pussy” tape, not calling service members “suckers and losers,” and not even denying reality.

Don’t make the mistake thinking that what happened in 1976 is in any way applicable to 2020.

[abqtommy]

4. I don't think I'm the only one ahead of the curve but I think Pence is a

"total lackey and a political hack" NOW!

[JI7]

5. Pence's political Career is already over . His only chance is winning something with the Help of

Trump supporters . President is unlikely but maybe some local or state office.

So doing something for Trump isn't going to hurt him anymore than if he didn't.

[UTUSN]

6. Fork stuck in him. And Mother will say, "You stoopid jerk, I told you so!1"

[essaynnc]

7. Just a question.....

Can president tRumf/pence pardon "any and all Republican office holders for any crime which they may have or might Not have committed "? Or Do pardons have to be for specific crimes?

I hate to try to fight that In court.

[Frasier Balzov]

11. Ford's general pardon of Nixon

Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

[czarjak]

8. My train of thought...

What part of "Trump would grant Pence a pardon and then resign making Pence the president" makes even a lick of sense? WTFUCKING FUCK?

[Mariana]

9. Pence has no political future anyway.

Trump's cultists aren't going to shift their devotion to Pence. He doesn't have what it takes to be a cult leader.

[Hoyt]

10. Don't think trump is that worried about a pardon, there is no jury

that will convict him. Whether it’s 1 or 5, there will always be enough white wingers to hang a jury. Now, they could hassle him forever, but I think it’s time to move on. A state prosecutor MIGHT get him, but not counting on it.

[Upthevibe]

12. PJMcK.....Re: dt pardoning pence/pence pardoning dt

My sister and I were having this very conversation today. I'll post what we discussed tomorrow because I'm too tired to do tonight. I LOVE your fantasy though!

[PlanetBev]

13. I think Pence will go quietly

I’m assuming he’s already packing up his snakes for the trip back to Indiana.

[struggle4progress]

14. I think Pence has done his job as office-holder in the Office-for-Holding-Buckets-of-Warm-Spit

[DFW]

15. Just think of all the re-numbering that would have to be done

If it goes down like that, then Pence becomes the 46th president, albeit for a few weeks only, and Biden becomes number 47.